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Old 02-03-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Please quit "gathering". Maybe the director is a crank!
No need to bite my head off. They're not mutually exclusive - it's a pervasive problem, and the director (or whoever wrote the sign) is a crank.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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No need to bite my head off. They're not mutually exclusive - it's a pervasive problem, and the director (or whoever wrote the sign) is a crank.
But how do you know it's a pervasive problem? No one involved in this thread, including the OP, even uses this day care! Maybe there was an incident the day before and it just ticked off a staff person. Maybe it happens twice a year! Who knows?
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Old 02-03-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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But how do you know it's a pervasive problem? No one involved in this thread, including the OP, even uses this day care! Maybe there was an incident the day before and it just ticked off a staff person. Maybe it happens twice a year! Who knows?
Reminder: the sign says, "We have seen children trying to hand their parents their work they completed and the parent is on the phone. We have heard a child say 'Mommy mommy mommy' and the parent is paying more attention to their phone than their own child".

So sounds like minimum 2-3 incidents the prior day, if we go with your theory.


'Get off your phone': Texas day care touches nerves with cellphone sign | abc7ny.com

Apparently they added a "please" and smiley emoji to soften the original message, lol.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Well, see, there's a difference. Your wife usually picks up your child, you do rarely. So it's a big deal for you. Ask your wife about this.
She's also not on the phone when she picks him up - except for taking his picture. That said, she's a teacher. Who's she going to be on a conference call with, another parent? They can wait. Even the weeks where I'm picking him up every day because I'm on an earlier schedule - I leave the work phone in the car. It's a luxury I have.

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I call baloney.

You have never taken a call ever while with your child? Really? If not, I would bet cash money that you don't spend a lot of one on one time with your kid. It is easy to proclaim kids come first, if you are only spending an hour with them a night.

Additionally, it is a mistake not to teach kids that sometimes they have to wait for your attention, that other people and other things may need to take priority sometimes. It is a disservice to children to teach them to expect to be the center of attention, even their parents attention, ALL THE TIME.
I have taken a work call with him exactly one time since he was born. He's just shy of two. The one time I took that call, the person on the other end asked me right away if I needed to call him back and that it was perfectly fine if I did. It was a short conversation and the kiddo was maybe 4 months old and content playing on the floor, so not an issue. 5 minutes and I was done.

I'm quite lucky to work for a company that values a work/family balance. My joining a call a few minutes late (assuming I'm doing it after hours to begin with) isn't an issue, since many of us on the team have kids and now how it goes.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:21 PM
 
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Apparently they added a "please" and smiley emoji to soften the original message, lol.
That just makes the whole note even more passive aggressive.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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I have taken a work call with him exactly one time since he was born. He's just shy of two. The one time I took that call, the person on the other end asked me right away if I needed to call him back and that it was perfectly fine if I did. It was a short conversation and the kiddo was maybe 4 months old and content playing on the floor, so not an issue. 5 minutes and I was done.

I'm quite lucky to work for a company that values a work/family balance. My joining a call a few minutes late (assuming I'm doing it after hours to begin with) isn't an issue, since many of us on the team have kids and now how it goes.
Wait you think since you never took a work call while he was an infant that implies you won't moving forward?
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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And I call a lack of reading comprehension. The person you quoted didn't say they never were on the phone while with their child. They said that they were never on the phone while picking up their child from daycare.

I never was either. As I stated earlier, if for some reason I needed to be on the phone, I stayed out in the parking lot in my car to finish the call before going into the daycare.

And this thread isn't about judging a parent in their entirety, it's about judging a particular action - picking up a child from daycare and not paying attention to them because you are focused on the phone.

Not to mention that no where does it say that parents are only on business conference calls when this is an issue. In fact, many people agreed it was likely not even talking on the phone, just the generic eyes glued to screen for texting, tweeting, playing games, etc. that didn't seem important enough to stop to the specific parents the daycare who posted the sign was presumably trying to reach.
Ah so the assumptions never end...if they are on the phone they are playing fames, tweeting, texting, etc.

My point is and remains you actually have no idea what they are doing, just like the guy who gave me crap for being on the phone getting directions to the damn hospital. Stop judging people for YOUR assumptions.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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Wait you think since you never took a work call while he was an infant that implies you won't moving forward?
Not picking him up from daycare I won't. I can and will choose to not carry that phone for the 15 minutes it'll take me to get in, sign him out, find out about his day and see what he's doing. Same thing with doctors visits, etc. A call isn't that important - anyone calling me will also understand when I tell them what I was doing when I missed the call. Will it happen in the future when he's at home with me or we're out somewhere? Quite possibly - but not at this stage in his life. Same reason why I don't work from home when he's sick and I stay home with him. He's not quite two - he doesn't understand the difference between play time and work time. Pull out my work computer and he wants to play with it and see what I'm doing. Therefore...I don't pull it out of my bag if he's anywhere nearby. Problem solved.

It's a choice you have to make. I work for a company that allows me that choice, and I will choose my family every time given that choice.
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:38 PM
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Ah so the assumptions never end...if they are on the phone they are playing fames, tweeting, texting, etc.

My point is and remains you actually have no idea what they are doing, just like the guy who gave me crap for being on the phone getting directions to the damn hospital. Stop judging people for YOUR assumptions.
And if this was a one time thing in an emergency situation, this thread wouldn't exist because the daycare wouldn't have posted the sign.

Stop being so damn sensitive, not everything is about you.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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Reminder: the sign says, "We have seen children trying to hand their parents their work they completed and the parent is on the phone. We have heard a child say 'Mommy mommy mommy' and the parent is paying more attention to their phone than their own child".

So sounds like minimum 2-3 incidents the prior day, if we go with your theory.


'Get off your phone': Texas day care touches nerves with cellphone sign | abc7ny.com

Apparently they added a "please" and smiley emoji to soften the original message, lol.
What theory is that? I asked, "But how do you know it's a pervasive problem? No one involved in this thread, including the OP, even uses this day care! Maybe there was an incident the day before and it just ticked off a staff person. Maybe it happens twice a year! Who knows?"

Where are you getting 2-3 times a day from?

And I will add, the parents are the day care center's employers! They wouldn't have jobs if it weren't for these parents putting their kids in the center. Now I know, these days, day care is hard to find, and good day care even harder, but still.
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