why do some people feel working moms are selfish (single dad, crying, listen)
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If mom is a mentally healthy, loving, caring mom who has a good support network (ie. enough income to not have to worry about money too much and a stable home life) then yes, I think that it's ideal for baby to be with mom.
I think this is fair with the understanding that much of that is subjective.
For some, it would be ok to be on government assistance, or to forego health care or retirement savings. That would make me a nervous wreck. I'm not saying one is better but instead, what what makes one person stressed is not a stressor for everyone.
It's one thing to say something is ideal, but life rarely provides ideal situations. So people and families make whatever compromises they feel are best for their own particular situation.
Last edited by maciesmom; 04-05-2017 at 01:09 PM..
I think this is fair with the understanding that much of that is subjective.
For some, it would be ok to be on government assistance, or to forego health care or retirement savings. That would make me a nervous wreck. I'm not saying one is better but that what makes one person stressed is not a stressor for everyone.
I agree about the stress factor. That's pretty much what I meant when I said that if mom doesn't have to worry about money. That line is going to be different for everyone. What would cause one person a lot of financial stress, would not necessarily impact another person in the same way. It's definitely subjective.
I agree about the stress factor. That's pretty much what I meant when I said that if mom doesn't have to worry about money. That line is going to be different for everyone.
Which is why newtovenice isn't going to get an answer to the specific question she demands. The answer is "it depends".
And money is just one thing that causes stress. Some people are awesome with infants and less so with older children; for some the reverse is true. *shrugs*
If mom is a mentally healthy, loving, caring mom who has a good support network (ie. enough income to not have to worry about money too much and a stable home life) then yes, I think that it's ideal for baby to be with mom.
I agree with this, but I'd substitute "parent" for mom.
Which is why newtovenice isn't going to get an answer to the specific question she demands. The answer is "it depends".
And money is just one thing that causes stress. Some people are awesome with infants and less so with older children; for some the reverse is true. *shrugs*
I agree. There are way too many variables to answer such a question. It really does depend on individual circumstances.
So you fully believe that mom is NOT better than daycare?
Why have kids in the first place? You're not a parent then, you have a hobby that is "playing parent" if you truly TRULY believe that moms are not better than daycare.
Which is pretty much what people on here keep supporting, over and over.
Not ONCE has anyone said: Babies need their moms. In fact, there have been arguments AGAINST moms taking care of their own babies.
Don't you all realize how distorted your viewpoint is? Actively arguing that babies are BETTER OFF without their moms?
Do you even realize that you are doing that?
Lol, do you even realize what YOU are doing? You actually quoted my post in the above reply. See below for someone who said BABIES NEED THEIR MOMS
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Originally Posted by Waterdragon8212
Of course babies need their moms - but they have many other needs as well. How can one need trump all the rest combined?
Clearly no one is persuading you of anything here - perhaps we should stop trying. Your illogical arguments have become so distorted that you can't even recognize your own hypocrisy (i.e. not responding to direct questions and then berating others for the "same" behavior when they've actually answered) - and have failed to see things that are blatantly stated in threads you quote.
I agree with this, but I'd substitute "parent" for mom.
I'm sticking to mom being the ideal caretaker in that particular scenario due to the fact that mom has a different kind of bond with her baby then dad does and she's biologically programed to care for her infant in ways that dad is not. That's not to say that dad wouldn't be the next best thing if we're talking in ideals. Or grandma or another loving, responsive caregiver.
We don't have to agree on that but I am clarifying why I would still say mom over parent in that scenario.
I'm sticking to mom being the ideal caretaker in that particular scenario due to the fact that mom has a different kind of bond with her baby then dad does and she's biologically programed to care for her infant in ways that dad is not. That's not to say that dad wouldn't be the next best thing if we're talking in ideals. Or grandma or another loving, responsive caregiver.
We don't have to agree on that but I am clarifying why I would still say mom over parent in that scenario.
And I bet if you asked him who he believes would take better care of his kids, he would say mom, not daycare. The fact that he has no choice is a different matter. The ideas are not tied together.
For instance, you can say, "I fully believe that infants need their moms, but unfortunately, my wife has died and I need a caretaker for my kids."
See? Admit that mom is better but still using daycare. Ideas are not inclusive.
I know some incredible fathers. Dads that claim " mommy hormones" or mommy does it better are just lazy.
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