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The word "breeder" is also used to distill the role of a woman down to that one aspect of her life. The word, when applied in this sense, makes any other aspect of her life nothing. She is important only as a breeder. That is actually how I have heard it used most, and it is very offensive in that sense.
People who are childfree (whether by choice or not) constantly have to deal with uninvited intrusions into their personal decisions, I think it is a reflection of that. Do I personally like the word? No. Do I understand it's usage? Yes.
No, I can honestly say I had not noticed.
As feminists, do you not find it hypocritical for childfree women to call other women offensive names? Would it be okay if I, as a white female, to call another ethnicity slurs because I had a bad go around with people of said ethnicity? Of course not. I thought these movements were based on mutual respect and understanding. From what I've seen over the past decade, its really not gone that way. Instead, the coins have flipped and now its okay to ridicule and denigrate one side vs. the other now. I don't see how that is progress nor do I see why its okay.
35 years ago I dated a guy who told his brother not to marry a certain woman. When I was there in the room!
He actually said, 'hey you want to breed athletes, you don't marry a small frail woman.'
Yeah we were over that night. I could see we weren't going to have a future.
So its not just people with no kids using this term.
I'm sure you made the right decision there! Good example of different types of people with different agendas using the term as an insult.
Agree! I've only heard the term when referring to folks that have like 4 or more kids.
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Even if true, does that make it any more acceptable?
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Depends...are all 4 kids planned and they can afford to have them? If so...then probably not. If they are just popping out babies without any thought...then yeah...they are breeders.
I know four families in our neighborhood with 4+ kids. I'm going to take a wild guess and say not all of them were planned though I know three of the four moms pretty well and all said they always wanted big families. I agree with minivandriver. Even if they weren't planned, but they were all loved and cared for, then why is it okay to call women who want big families nasty names? Again, this flies in the face of strong feminist values. I don't get the hypocrisy.
Sure you did. You just called someone a 'breeder.' And no, you didn't. I'm just pointing out some unpleasant truths.
For example, if a woman had two or three times more sexual partners than you, would you call her a sl*t? More importantly, would you be more likely to do so in the anonymity of an internet forum?
Oh good question!!
I think if we swapped "breeder" with any other derogatory term, we'd see different responses. Certainly not responses justifying the use of a term that most of us can understand is used to be offensive.
As feminists, do you not find it hypocritical for childfree women to call other women offensive names? Would it be okay if I, as a white female, to call another ethnicity slurs because I had a bad go around with people of said ethnicity? Of course not. I thought these movements were based on mutual respect and understanding. From what I've seen over the past decade, its really not gone that way. Instead, the coins have flipped and now its okay to ridicule and denigrate one side vs. the other now. I don't see how that is progress nor do I see why its okay.
I never said I agreed with it or found it acceptable. I simply explained the context of the responses you posted.
I know four families in our neighborhood with 4+ kids. I'm going to take a wild guess and say not all of them were planned though I know three of the four moms pretty well and all said they always wanted big families. I agree with minivandriver. Even if they weren't planned, but they were all loved and cared for, then why is it okay to call women who want big families nasty names? Again, this flies in the face of strong feminist values. I don't get the hypocrisy.
I prefer "unscheduled." Most women plan to be moms at some point, sometimes the babies are "unscheduled," a bit later or earlier in life.
Unplanned would be to a woman who never wanted kids. Just my 2 cents
I was speaking the apparent plethora of threads on this forum lately decrying parenting, not the use of the term "breeder". I understand why it's offensive and already answered that.
I'm sorry I misunderstood.
I've been on this forum for nearly nine years. I've seen quite a few threads and posts denigrating parents and children - just for their mere existence. Add in the crap I've seen on social media and feeds too. I see a turning tide against the family unit. We have numerous childfree friends and apparently they feel comfortable enough around us to complain about kids and parents these days. Of course, they always preface it with, "Oh but not like you guys."
I prefer "unscheduled." Most women plan to be moms at some point, sometimes the babies are "unscheduled," a bit later or earlier in life.
Unplanned would be to a woman who never wanted kids. Just my 2 cents
Ah, I like that!!!
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Would it be okay if I, as a white female, to call another ethnicity slurs because I had a bad go around with people of said ethnicity? Of course not. I thought these movements were based on mutual respect and understanding. From what I've seen over the past decade, its really not gone that way. Instead, the coins have flipped and now its okay to ridicule and denigrate one side vs. the other now. I don't see how that is progress nor do I see why its okay.
I'm sure you made the right decision there! Good example of different types of people with different agendas using the term as an insult.
Ah, I like that!!!
