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Something so wrong with the way people think is showing up loud and clear here. Our society benefits as a whole by taking care of children, making sure they have access to food, medicine, education, safety. These "other people's problems" will someday become part of the adult fabric of our society. It isn't helping people as a whole that is hurting our country, its ignoring children's needs that leads to a downfall in our society.
WHat is going to happen to most children who aren't properly cared for as children, then not properly educated? When they become adults...what will they be like? I would rather pay on the front end then pay on the back.
I love the floating concept: "Taking care of children". Like there is this pool of children who immaculately appear and need care. No, people humped and pumped, and the kids are the result of that activity. Therefore, the people who CHOSE TO BRING LIFE INTO THE WORLD, are responsible to pay for raising, clothing, feeding, and educating that life.
You don't create life and demand that others pay for that life. That's not how it works. There are no children. There are parents WITH children. They are the ones responsible to take care of those bills.
Seems to me as if daycare should be one service that should be free and funded by the government. If they can spend billions on killing people that pose no threat to us, surely they could fund something that actually matters.
Lol. Yeah the government does such a bang up job at everything else why not childcare.
Some people ( a whole political party) lives in la la land about these things. Yes, in an ideal world, every child has 2 parents who love each other, and never split up, and make plenty of money, and never have to worry about paying their bills or getting health insurance.
I like to live in reality where people are imperfect, and we deal with imperfections and unplanned events in a way that makes sense. Just saying "if you can't afford them, don't have them" is unrealistic and doesn't solve any thing. People will always have children that were unplanned and that they can't afford. That is never going to change. Offering options to help people achieve the best outcomes helps. Setting unrealistic expectations does not.
People are imperfect and stupid because we pay them to be imperfect and stupid. We need to stop that. And we stop that by not subsidizing and incentivizing bad behavior.
It is preposterous and evil to suggest that people have their private property, that they earned and sweated for, stripped by the State to pay for babysitting services for others against their will.
Start a Gofundme. At least that's moral because you're ASKING, not using the police power of the state to violate people's rights, under penalty of jail, and steal their money to give to others so that they can have "free" day care.
If you want to give your money away and start a free babysitting fund, go for it. But keep your hands off the private property of others. Yo have no right to steal from one person for the unearned and undeserved benefit of another. That's just wrong.
Honestly, yes, if people complain about paying $8 an hour for someone to spend the entire day caring for their CHILD, whom we assume they love and cherish, I think they should take a hard look at their priorities and their finances. What do they think a fair price for caring for a small child should be? What would they themselves expect to get paid for doing the job?
Indeed.
People dont complain about child care workers being too well paid! QUALITY center based child care is EXPENSIVE for normal families. Why? Not because child care workers are so well paid, but because there is essentially no support for families like K-12 public education! I think its high time we started investing in quality childcare for our children.
People are imperfect and stupid because we pay them to be imperfect and stupid. We need to stop that.
Name one real life model of your theory actually being successful. I also assume you think government shouldnt be involved in health care either. Just give one country or society that functions or has functioned according to your principles.
That society, I can guarantee you is a society of tremendous social problems on a massive scale.
Name one real life model of your theory actually being successful. I also assume you think government shouldnt be involved in health care either. Just give one country or society that functions or has functioned according to your principles.
That society, I can guarantee you is a society of tremendous social problems on a massive scale.
Yeah, we've never tried full freedom. We're not ready. We're too scared, and too weak, and too stupid. We're not worthy of it. We're still addicted to stealing from each other, trading freedom for security. But we are evolving, and we will qualify for Capitalism in the future. Imagine a society where trade trumps tyranny. And when we want something, we agree as a society always to ask for it, instead of violently stealing it. No, we're not ready yet. We need better people. But we're getting there. America was the opening volley, where we dabbled in freedom, but we're not good enough to fully embrace it. But we will.
People dont complain about child care workers being too well paid! QUALITY center based child care is EXPENSIVE for normal families. Why? Not because child care workers are so well paid, but because there is essentially no support for families like K-12 public education! I think its high time we started investing in quality childcare for our children.
Invest in your own child care for your own children. Keep your hands off the property of others, unless you plan to ask them for it.
No. I support universal healthcare, because no one should suffer because of their income, and I support public education, because everyone should have access to a basic education, and an educated populace is better in the long run economically and socially, but daycare? If you can't afford daycare then find a friend you can trust who can take care of yer kid for free or cheap, or a relative like an aunt or grandparent. My aunt takes care of her grandchildren while their parents are working. During one summer she would babysit me, my brother and sister and my mom would pay her a fair amount. Honestly, be creative. Its not the same as school teachers or doctors.
I don't see it as "I ain't payin' fer someone else's kids" cuz I'll gladly pay taxes for the children of the less fortunate to attend school and have a free meal at lunch, but something like daycare, there's so many alternatives. Sometimes you gotta make sacrifices. I plan to be a parent someday, I dunno what I will do in the topic of daycare but I honestly would rather my kid be with grandma or auntie anyway than at a daycare.
People dont complain about child care workers being too well paid! QUALITY center based child care is EXPENSIVE for normal families. Why? Not because child care workers are so well paid, but because there is essentially no support for families like K-12 public education! I think its high time we started investing in quality childcare for our children.
Funny how I think I have never heard anyone who says this in regards to FREEways.
Freeways are universally liked and people do not go on this rant about nothing being free whenever they are mentioned.
Why is that? Could it be because you yourself feel you benefit from it? And then it is OK?
You prove my point. The Interstate Highway Program cost about $ 500 Billion dollars in today's money and was paid for by tax dollars. It is "free" for EVERYBODY to use and also benefits commerce. What these folks are asking for are free things that will benefit JUST THEM. It's like me asking for a JustMike Freeway just for myself to use. Ridiculous, right? Well, I can't use the "free" birth control or the "free" Viagra (yet) or the "free" daycare, so it is NOT like the freeway system at all. I even opted out of the awful L.A. "free" public schools for my kid and I worked extra hard so my wife could stay home with our son. I have no objection if the government spends our tax dollars on things which EVERYBODY can use, I just object to people wanting to shirk their personal responsibility and have the rest of us pay for their stuff. And what ever happened to waiting until you can afford children before you have them ?
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) or the "free" daycare, so it is NOT like the freeway system at all. I even opted out of the awful L.A. "free" public schools for my kid and I worked extra hard so my wife could stay home with our son. I have no objection if the government spends our tax dollars on things which EVERYBODY can use, I just object to people wanting to shirk their personal responsibility and have the rest of us pay for their stuff. And what ever happened to waiting until you can afford children before you have them ? 
