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Old 10-01-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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People do it all the time when it comes to criminally violating speed limit laws. 5 mph over = a pack of gum. 50 mph over the limit = the diamond necklace.
Well said.

I think people clutching their pearls and talking about this in terms of being an moral or ethical person need to take a real look at what those things really mean.

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Old 10-01-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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LOL I actually don't believe people who say they would drive all the way back to the store to return a pack of gum. I think the moral indignation is really funny...
There is no moral indignation. I have done it. I don't see what is unbelievable about doing the right thing because it is the right thing regardless of monetary value.
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Old 10-01-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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Ethics and honesty like that are rare any more.
They really aren't IMO. But god forgive you opine about it because then you are a sanctimonious perfect person.
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Old 10-01-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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Well said.

I think people clutching their pearls and talking about this in terms of being an moral or ethical person need to take a real look at what those things really mean.
What DOES it mean? Taking the low road when you are too lazy to do the right thing?
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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My mom was telling me a story what my 2yr. old niece had done while out shopping with her mom and Grandparents. They thought it was funny. I didn't and told my mom if my sister-in-law don't send the money to cover the cost of the necklace, it's stealing and not setting a good example for the kid. My mom acted like it was no big deal. I was mad.
She should personally return it and apologize for being the granddaughter.

Taking things that do not belong to you is known as "stealing." It's always been "stealing" and someone needs some moral education from her daughter because "mom" isn't a grown-up yet.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: equator
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I don't have kids, but I WAS a kid and this happened to me. There used to be these individually wrapped caramels at the grocery store. At age 6, I nabbed one. At home, my mom found me out. Spanked me and took me back to the store. Obviously, I've never forgotten it. It's a very powerful lesson for a kid. 5 cents or 5 dollars.....principle is the same.


DH's parents drove him back to a restaurant to return the sugar cubes he'd secreted as a young boy. LOL.
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:48 AM
 
Location: 53179
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I don't have kids, but I WAS a kid and this happened to me. There used to be these individually wrapped caramels at the grocery store. At age 6, I nabbed one. At home, my mom found me out. Spanked me and took me back to the store. Obviously, I've never forgotten it. It's a very powerful lesson for a kid. 5 cents or 5 dollars.....principle is the same.


DH's parents drove him back to a restaurant to return the sugar cubes he'd secreted as a young boy. LOL.
To me it's such an obvious thing to do. It's not that I'm claiming to have higher morals because that's far from the truth..lol, but when it comes to taking other peoples property I just can't. It doesn't matter if it's Walmart or a small mom and pop convenient store. It's just wrong! If you live 10 miles away from the store then pay next time you go there, or return the item. Or...at least call them.
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Old 10-01-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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It is not the two year old who is stealing. It is the adult who knows the merchandise was not paid for.
It's really just this simple. The perceived value of the item doesn't matter.
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Old 10-01-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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No pearl-clutching here, bird. Just an honest assessment of my belief that I shalt not steal. Thou may see it differently.
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Old 10-01-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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To me it's such an obvious thing to do. It's not that I'm claiming to have higher morals because that's far from the truth..lol, but when it comes to taking other peoples property I just can't. It doesn't matter if it's Walmart or a small mom and pop convenient store. It's just wrong! If you live 10 miles away from the store then pay next time you go there, or return the item. Or...at least call them.
The problem with explaining that you'd do the right thing to people who don't (or calling them out when they don't do something right) is that their defensive mode goes straight to our supposedly sitting smugly on some throne of superior self-righteousness.


That's really not it. This *is* what I would do (and have done). This *is* what I consider the right thing. There's no nanny nanny boo boo involved.
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