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Old Yesterday, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Dayton, OH
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A 1st grader and a pre-ker don't care where they go to school. I would be moving out this weekend (if you can afford it).
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Old Yesterday, 06:24 PM
 
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I agree that if you're going to uproot your kids and move them to a new school, they are at an age where the adjustment won't be too difficult. Many kids who have to change schools in the middle of the year will do so after just after winter break if they can't wait until summer. It's a good time to start over if need be. Hope you all are safe.
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Old Yesterday, 06:39 PM
 
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Whether or not this couple turns out to be actually dangerous over the long haul, think of the impact that the tension and uncertainly is having now on your children. That's a reality. On a daily basis. Children pick up far more than we realize and at those ages they may be too young to fully verbalize their fears but sure old enough to be negatively impacted.

As difficult as a move will be, think of it as something positive that you are definitely doing FOR your kids.

I'm so sorry.
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Old Yesterday, 09:54 PM
 
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I am a bit concerned that it has been over 24 hours and no additional posts by OP. Hopefully she is busy packing and moving.

OP....If you check in, please update. And know that we are not trying to make you feel badly....Those of us urging you to move asap are doing so because of real concern for your family's safety. Not because we are finding fault with you.

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Old Today, 04:52 AM
 
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I know many of you give some great advice and really am just full of anxiety, which I already have an issue with to begin with. We've rented in a 2 family home with our ll's upstairs, for almost 5 years. We have a thuggish couple, and I mean mentality, who we have had on and off issues with for the the entire time we've been here. Current state of the relationship is if husband says hi, I'll give a hi back, wife doesn't make eye contact with me (but talks about me to her playground friends and then they will stare me down) and husband is on full speaking terms with them.

Well to make an extremely long story short and yes I have to leave out tons of back details on what they have done over the years, I was verbally threatened to "shut the blank up before I slap you across the "blank" face with a shovel along with my stupid husband) when I honked and asked the husband to move his car (which he blocks the driveway in on a consistent basis or hangs over where I can't get in.) I had my child with me too and have NEVER been threatend by anyone, let alone a male "good" neighbor (yes they called themselves that before lol). I was scared and I sure as hell told my DH. Well he confronted the guy , I'm sure many of you think he shouldn't have, which ended in a psychical altercation. The wife bum rushed her husband, ran up my steps and proceeded to pound on our glass window, brake 3 brackets, and turn my door knob trying to bust in. At his point, my ll was outside, neighbors and then the cops. I was told by wife to "watch my back" which everyone heard. The husband DENIED ever saying anything to me Shocker right..

My husband and I already have a downpayment for house, made 2 offers this summer that were rejected and decided to start the school year (1st grader and pre-ker) here and pick up in the spring. I no longer feel safe here, yes, I am afraid of retaliation (DH's car was keyed both sides front to back 1 summer ago when he was parked down the block and we still don't know who did it). My DH is the most passive (probably too passive with this situation from the beginning), and non-confrontational person there is. The above incident was his breaking point unfortunately. I just went back to work this year and do per diem work, so am home a lot during the day when the wife is home. We also share a driveway. MY ll and DH think this guy may have a record or some legal issue going on already based on comments he made with the police. DH and I both come, and have lived, in nice residential areas our entire life, NEVER had issues with neighbors, until we came upon this nightmare. Just 2 weeks ago, my 85 year old grandpa almost got knocked over getting out of his car to come in my house by said neighbors greyhound that they allow to run off leash all over the neighborhood and pee and poop on our side. You can bet my grandpa told this guy to leash up his dog.

Would you even consider riding it out here with kids until the Spring and moving once my kids are done with school? We plan on moving over state lines BTW bc we are priced out of the housing market here. I have no family here for us to stay with. I even considered contacting my estranged mother, well for a split second. Only other option would be to take both kids out of school now and move to my inlaws an hour away. DH thinks we should start house hunting again, but I know that could take quite some time and 60 days or more for closing. These peoples kid also goes to my kids school.

Any advice? Does it sound unsafe for my kids?

Your whole problem seems to be you fight over the driveway.

Couldn't you just park in a different spot?

Also, your post is confusing. You said she "stares down at me with her playground friends"

Is this a high school dropout couple or adults?
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Old Today, 04:54 AM
 
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I've moved in a big hurry before because of a dangerous neighbor. Your kids will be better off moving suddenly than dealing with those neighbors.

It's going to take a while to buy a house, that's not something you can do in a day or two. You'll have to have time for inspection, appraisal, closing, etc. Plus it's a bad idea to buy something in a huge hurry that you may be stuck living in for years. You might consider putting your belongings in storage and staying in an extended-stay motel until you can find a house.


Assuming the family rented because they are poor, staying in a motel for more than a day or two is not going to be affordable for them.

Plus, a motel that's "affordable" would be full of types similar to the neighbors they are currently with.
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Old Today, 04:56 AM
 
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It sounds unsafe for all of you. It might be better financially for you to ride it out, but in this case
"out of harms way" trumps that and anything else that would keep you there.

If you do have family that you could live with, check and see if you can. Otherwise, look at a short term rental. I would think that your LL would let you out of any kind of lease knowing what you are going through.

These people are dangerous. And anyone they associate with are likely the same type. No inconvenience would be enough to keep me there if there was any other option. And a female being threatened like you were is particularly unsafe.

I know that it isn't right to have to be afraid in your own home and that we grow up learning how to call the authorities and such, but this obviously hasn't stopped these unhinged folks.

You also have obviously been putting up with these people for 5 years. You are not operating to full capacity regarding rational thinking because in a sense you have forgotten what it is to have "normal" non-violent neighbors.

This is not normal. Your response to his threat is not normal....You call the police when someone does anything like that, you don't wait for your husband to get home. This horrible situation has escalated into physical violence.

You don't think of how to reason with someone like that. You cannot deal rationally with irrational people. This guy threatened to beat you in the head with a shovel....your child witnessed this verbal assault....This is not a rational man. And his wife is just as irrational.....there is no safety net here, the wife wasn't trying to diffuse her husbands temper....both of them are violent. This is the worst case scenario.

You are actually suffering from shock imo. And because they have lived next to you you seem to have been conditioned to their behavior. It is similar to how oftentimes an abused spouse responds, afraid to go and afraid to stay.

This is keeping you from reacting like most of us reading your post are, with suggestions of get the heck out of there. As in pack an overnight bag and run. You can get friends and family to come help you move....but you need to physically be away from there asap.

Do what is best for you and your family immediately. Go to another rental, or short term go to your husbands family....don't add to this stress by going to your mom's. And don't leave a forwarding address.

Threatening to beat someone with a shovel is not a serious threat unless you actually do it.

It sounds like the neighbors are mediocre types with one bad incident.

You shouldn't judge people with one bad incident.

Who says this new family can even get a loan from a bank for a house?

If they move into a new apartment, they could move into an area with even worse neighbors.

Picking an apartment is not like picking a dress. You have to live with that decision for years.
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Old Today, 04:58 AM
 
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go to the police, file a restraining order. call the cops every single time they try some BS. dont hesitate! they dont care about you, so why should you care about them?

after a few visits from the police, they would think twice about making your life miserable. do they own their home, or do they rent? how about writing to the property owner, and letting them know what is going on? what about reporting any little thing wrong that they do with all city agencies? do they fight with each other? call the cops on a domestic abuse complaint. they will eventually be full of legal fees, they will want to move.

when you do move, I hope it is soon, make sure you pay them back for any inconvenience.


Calling the cops about every little thing is a great way for them to not respond when a real emergency happens.

This is horrible advice.
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Old Today, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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I just got home before and they have opened their kitchen window (it's 32 degrees out) and have rap music with EXPLICIT lyrics blasting towards our house now for 3 hours. Its on auto play. Their speakers are in the window.
That's a nuisance and harassment. File complaints with your city.

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Just 2 weeks ago, my 85 year old grandpa almost got knocked over getting out of his car to come in my house by said neighbors greyhound that they allow to run off leash all over the neighborhood and pee and poop on our side. You can bet my grandpa told this guy to leash up his dog.
Call the dog catcher, if it's illegal to let em run off leash. But do it secretly or you may have trouble.
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Old Today, 08:36 AM
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Threatening to beat someone with a shovel is not a serious threat unless you actually do it.

It sounds like the neighbors are mediocre types with one bad incident.

You shouldn't judge people with one bad incident.

Who says this new family can even get a loan from a bank for a house?

If they move into a new apartment, they could move into an area with even worse neighbors.

Picking an apartment is not like picking a dress. You have to live with that decision for years.
Are you out of your mind? That's not a "serious" threat?


If they did it - its not a threat its an actuality. Do you even know what the word "threat" means? Threatening to beat someone with a shovel is one step below threatening to shoot someone with a gun. You seem hecka confused about the word threat.


OP - these people are absolutely low lives - they'll ruin the street for many. The chances you'd end up next to such antisocial losers again is low. Move.
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