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Old 01-02-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Arkansas
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Excluding girls with disabilities is NOT a GS thing. Because my daughter's school had the HIP kids for the surrounding area mainstreamed in with hearing children, all the kids learned ASL and we had several deaf girls in our troop. We also had a girl who walked with a limp because she'd suffered a stroke in utero. There was never any question of excluding any girl because of a disability.
I've heard a few stories about children with disabilities being left out of troops. Girl Scouts is supposed to be inclusive of children with disabilities. The problem arises with parents who don't understand the rules of the organization. Many parents are unaware of the goals and purpose of Scouts. Some of them see it just as place to drop their child off for playtime. I think all parents and volunteers in GS should be given a list of the goals and rules of the organization as soon as they enroll their child. They should be told that it's an inclusive organization and if they have a problem with it, to not get involved and find a different group.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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We had two girls whose moms could not even afford the basic dues. My co-leader and I covered them until another Mom, who was a successful professional and very well off overheard us talking one day about covering the girls for an upcoming trip and offered to pay for anything they needed for the year. Said she had lost $40K on the stock market the day before that she could afford to lose and that hearing that put the loss into perspective for her.



Interesting. Did you know that there is financial aid available to any girl who needs it. If the activities are through your council, they can be covered in part or in whole by the council. There are forms to be filled out.

We also did cover things from the cookie money the girls earned.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Arkansas
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Interesting. Did you know that there is financial aid available to any girl who needs it. If the activities are through your council, they can be covered in part or in whole by the council. There are forms to be filled out.
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I didn't know about the financial aid forms.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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I've heard a few stories about children with disabilities being left out of troops. Girl Scouts is supposed to be inclusive of children with disabilities. The problem arises with parents who don't understand the rules of the organization. Many parents are unaware of the goals and purpose of Scouts. Some of them see it just as place to drop their child off for playtime. I think all parents and volunteers in GS should be given a list of the goals and rules of the organization as soon as they enroll their child. They should be told that it's an inclusive organization and if they have a problem with it, to not get involved and find a different group.
I agree 100%.

I do believe we were given the goals and rules of the organization in training (it was a long time ago, my daughter is 26 years old) but some people may just let their fears and prejudices take over.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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Interesting. Did you know that there is financial aid available to any girl who needs it. If the activities are through your council, they can be covered in part or in whole by the council. There are forms to be filled out.

We also did cover things from the cookie money the girls earned.
Yes, we were aware of that, but we chose to take care of the two girls whose moms were financially strapped on our own.

Good point, though. No one is excluded because they can't afford to participate.
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Old Yesterday, 03:05 PM
 
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I shouldn't comment too much because we haven't been in it, but reading their oaths and creeds combined with their God first values, I would be really careful that the values they teach are inline with your own.

i.e. I saw one part of the creed to keep their body and mind pure...that raises red flags for me personally because I worry what that entails.

We wont be joining as we aren't Christians, but I am very interested to learn more about it.

Isn't that just referring to abstaining until marriage.

You could argue some people might not be able to do that, but aiming for that is not harmful.
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Old Yesterday, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Denver area
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Isn't that just referring to abstaining until marriage.

You could argue some people might not be able to do that, but aiming for that is not harmful.
Of course aiming for that is not harmful. What is harmful is defining one's self worth by that and implying that if one doesn't abstain until marriage it is shameful and they are rendered "impure" .
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Old Yesterday, 05:33 PM
 
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You already have your answer to American Heritage Girls. I heard of it through a lady whose husband had a no women allowed boy scout troop. Those particular people were not people I would have many commonalities with. I'm not religious, but had my kids in scouts. I used it as a learning experience for my kids to see how others believe. I don't remember scouts being so religion based when I was a kid.

Something you might be interested in depending upon where you live is 4-H. They have pretty strong programs and is not as limiting as girl scouts.

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Old Yesterday, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Arkansas
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Something you might be interested in depending upon where you live is 4-H. They have pretty strong programs and is not as limiting as girl scouts.
I don't know if they have 4-H here or not, but I will look into it. Thanks.
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Old Today, 11:58 AM
 
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I think I read on one of the links that they did sell food items in order to fundraise. The context was promoting that each troop kept a larger percentage of profits than GS cookies.

Didn't GS recently have a sugar free cookie? For some reason I thought they did.
Shortbreads have only 1 gram per cookie. There are 4 grams per serving, but a serving size for that particular cookie is 4 cookies.

Source: I'm "cookie mom" for 2 different troops.

As far as the push to sell, that really varies from troop to troop. Neither one of my girls are in a troop that pushes hard, and yet in one, there's a lot more excitement on the part of the families to fund raise. That troop goes on a big trip every year, using the funds earned through cookie sales. Last year was Colonial Williamsburg. The other troop does participate, but not to the same degree and does a "pay as you go" as far funding activities.
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