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Old 03-27-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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Crime is down, but it's not nil.

In the past, you'd have a litter of children, and it was expected/acceptable that a few of them would not make it to adulthood. Aren't Mormons expected to have tons of children?

Anyway, more power to them. It's not for me, thanks. I'd rather have fewer children and make sure they survive to adulthood by taking steps to minimize the risks they encounter.
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Old 03-27-2018, 11:14 AM
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Aren't Mormons expected to have tons of children?
No. Many do, but many Catholics do, too. Mormons are free to have as few or as many children as they personally want and can care for. There aren't exactly negative consequences for not meeting some kind of an arbitrary quota.
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Old 03-27-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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No, for 99% of families that's not a stress or an issue that ever comes up in their lives.
Sounds like you got some axe to grind for sure.
I know several people who have been reported to CPS for their 10 year old playing at a nearby park in the daytime, or 12 year old walking home from school. Things like that. Since every report has to be investigated, no matter how trivial it might seem, then it is an issue for families. CPS will follow up on everything.
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Old 03-28-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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It discredits helicopter parenting. I don't like that style of parenting, myself, because I was raised like that back when it was a peculiar way to raise kids, and I still don't appreciate it.

I don't particularly think it was all that "safe" when I was a child 50-sum years ago. There were still bad people out there, kid-nappers, etc. Just not nearly as many people and not nearly as many incidents. Today, I do think certain things are safer in numbers, like walking to school. Much depends on where one lives.
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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There is nothing in Utah's law that prevents people from reporting "free range" children for neglect and lack of parental supervision.

The law is clear that each situation will be handled on a case by case basis. So the social workers will still be investigating and making judgement calls on whether each child is mature enough to handle things.

Nothing outlawing helicopter parenting either. From what I can tell, helicopter parenting occurs with a lot lower frequency than lackadaisical parental supervision.

But whatever.
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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If you want "free range" parenting, move to Alaska. You aren't even required to educate your children there. A decade ago, a law was passed that you didn't have to register your children in school. No proof of homeschooling, no testing, nada is required. .

Your kids. You can raise them the way you want without pesky interference from the government.

Of course, if they grow up unable to read, write, add, or subtract, then government assistance may be needed. But until then, the pesky government has got no business telling you what parenting approach you practice.
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Old 04-01-2018, 08:25 AM
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This is good news.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ange-parenting

Granted, it's still a dangerous world but, one of the most frequent sources of stress in families lives is CPS being called by nosy, Moderator cut: deleted know-it-all, snitches, who likely don't have kids, and don't think that governmental involvement is very scary to families.

...breathe... the specifics are; charges of neglect can no longer be filed just because a child, specifically aged 9 or more, is walking back and forth from a school, park, or general store by themselves or with other kids, also aged 9 or older.

The reasons listed were: parents should fear legal retribution for reasonable parenting decisions, kids need to learn some level of independence, children are maturing later and later due to laws effectively negating parental authority and, that this law aims to stem that foul tide.

It's a step in the right direction at least.
Good! Now maybe children can play outside without the parents being jailed!
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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I am still trying to understand how letting a 9 year old walk to school is considered "free-range" parenting. If so, 30 or 40 families that live near my daughter's elementary school are free-range parents.
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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I am still trying to understand how letting a 9 year old walk to school is considered "free-range" parenting. If so, 30 or 40 families that live near my daughter's elementary school are free-range parents.
I wondered that too. Never heard of "free-range parenting"
Much of this depends upon WHERE you live. The level of crime and danger.
We live in a subdivision with 50% vacation homes. Kids can walk down the street just fine
Hardly any cars, there is no danger here, generally.
Town has only 200 people. 95% are college educated so that helps
Every kid is a free-range kid in our area
And if anyone sees anything suspicious, they go outside to check on the kids
Anything wrong, we notify their parents.

In a city, might not be so.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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Maybe Mormons are busy poking their nose into what other families are up to. Hard to tell.

All the kids around here are "free range." Just saw three boys go by on their bikes.
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