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you read it the way you wanted to read it....I didn't say or man that...I did say there were always kids that got out of hand, but nothing like today...sure there were isolated cases, sure there were down right bad kids, but for the most part, kids didn't act out violently....kids didn't shoot each other up...kids didn't talk back to teachers to the extent it is happening today...
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter inplace of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
Socrates - 300 BC
copied and pasted from a similar CD thread
Did the Greeks call things "dainties?" I'm thinking not....
I know this quote is always attributed to Socrates, but dainties is NOT a Greek (or even Latin) term.
I think kids and young adults back then where held accountable for their actions then they are now. Parents also took more responsibility for their kids actions too. That's why I think you didn't hear about it as much as you do now.
When did a college celebration, turn into a police dispatch?
I am so tired of kids being raised to believe, it's ok when their home team wins a sport, to celebrate by stomping on cars, turning them over, climbing light posts, smashing windows, destroying the property of others....and starting fires?
I just cannot for the life of me, understand, why and how they got the idea that this behavior is ok? And I don't care what city they are from, it's unacceptable behavior.
Celebrations are a reason or cause to destroy the property of others, including tax payer's belongings....
I believe this is part of the reason why kids are so unruly, and think it's ok to run from an officer and not respect a police officer's request....then when people get shot, right away it's the officer's fault...NO, it is not!!!!
Crime is crime, and if an officer yells, stop....they mean it....
Kids just don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of respect...and I'm sorry, but that comes from parenting....
and before anyone gets all upset and defensive about this post, I opened this for a discussion, b/c it's what I saw on the news this morning, upon reports of college basketball winning...so, don't go getting all upset thinking I know any of you personally and start getting all defensive in this thread....
This is some thing that needs to seriously be addressed, and discussed, b/c kids are losing the value of respect for themselves, respect for the property of others, and most of all, respect for laws.....they do not seem to be able to grasp the concept of wrong doings.
Why do you think that is, and what can we all do together to change it?
They will learn to be politically and socially correct when they move into jobs. Until then, let them be kids.
Maybe all of you who believe that children are such wonderful little people.....need to speak with teachers, more frequently and police....its no longer just the inner city kids....also coaches, who coach kids sports....and the way parents act...at the kids sports games....
Was it ever just inner city kids?
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Originally Posted by Weenie66
I think kids and young adults back then where held accountable for their actions then they are now. Parents also took more responsibility for their kids actions too. That's why I think you didn't hear about it as much as you do now.
I disagree. My dad and his friends used to blow up mail boxes and set fires back in the 50's and never had any consequences. Today they'd be in juvenile hall. This was in the suburbs, not the inner city.
I disagree. My dad and his friends used to blow up mail boxes and set fires back in the 50's and never had any consequences. Today they'd be in juvenile hall. This was in the suburbs, not the inner city.
Not to mention, previous generation's "youthful indiscretions" were eventually forgotten. Today everything is on the internet forever. No moving past it.
I remember my kids going to college worrying that some person would take a picture of them at a party with a red Solo cup in the picture, pos it on social media and worried they'd not get a job after graduating.
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I disagree. My dad and his friends used to blow up mail boxes and set fires back in the 50's and never had any consequences. Today they'd be in juvenile hall. This was in the suburbs, not the inner city.
Kids have always done these things. And no, not anymore isolated than now. You just didn't have the ability to see it on social media, the internet, TV, etc. No one was filming it with an iphone for all to see. And honestly, most kids have always been basically good kids...now and then. There are some things parents are doing wrong now compared to the past and other things they are doing better (when you know better, you do better...but sometimes you overcompensate). Kids these days are smart and creative. They are innovative and they are a lot more open minded. Kids these days are pretty great for the most part. And some of what they deal with these days is downright scary compared to what we dealt with (internet predators, online bullying, learning to navigate a new tech world)...so I'd say they are handling it about as well as teens can be expected with parents who have no personal experience with anything. I have a teenager and the internet didn't explode until I was in grad school, so I'm learning as I go with the stuff teens use to communicate now. Kids these days have different issues, but they are no better and no worse than what you are romanticizing in the past. Hell, I thank God my younger years weren't captured on an iphone video for eternity. And I was a basically good kid.
My daughter is a teacher. More issues with parents than with kids.
Yes that's what I hear 2 except for some teachers will say the children become like their parents in school . I Want to thank you for the discussion greatly appreciate
I think kids and young adults back then where held accountable for their actions then they are now. Parents also took more responsibility for their kids actions too. That's why I think you didn't hear about it as much as you do now.
. Keep in mind, Folks today can’t sneeze without being photographed.
We have a 24 hour nationwide news-cycle now. Plus, everyone is walking around with cameras in their phones, ready to upload to the world at a moment’s notice. There are thousands of local news stories being broadcast every day.
When i grew up, (in the 60s), most families only had 1 car, (which dad took to work). Kids weren’t in touch with mom at any moment’s notice. Parents did not have the means to hover over their kids as much as today.
My wife and I had much more responsibility for our 3 kids, than my parents did, thanks to modern conveniences. My kids are now becoming responsible adults without any major setbacks thru the years.
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