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Old 12-01-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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No, it's not normal for MOST young people.

But so what if it were? It's still a FELONY. It's still a serious charge with serious consequences. Him trying to justify it to family or to brush off the seriousness of his situation just shows how immature he is. Saying other people do this all the time is a lame attempt to deflect responsibility.

People forge benzo prescriptions for two reasons. To sell them, or to take them. Would either of those scenarios be acceptable to his extended family?

Which leads me to: you are extended family in another country, so this is really none of your business.
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Old 12-01-2018, 06:53 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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And that ameliorates what?
I don't know as my comment ameliorates anything but I was responding to this comment of yours:


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And only about 1% of most other industrialized nations. The US has four times more people in prison than in the military.
which was in turn a response to this:

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i think only about 10% of our society are convicted criminals.
Not everyone who is convicted goes to jail, and the topic is teens having run-ins with LE, not the US prison population.
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:49 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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i thought the different level of offenses are:
citation - one would pay a fine which does not go on your criminal record.
misdemeanor - one would be required to attend court and it goes on your criminal record.
felony - mandatory prison or probation sentence and it goes on your criminal record.
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:35 PM
 
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It is "normal" for teens to get a speeding ticket, or get into a fender bender (minor car accident with no injuries).

It is nowhere near "normal" for teens to be convicted of felonies. Criminals are not "normal".
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Nope, not normal. There is a term for this.. criminal. Basically a record that will impede many employment opportunities.
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: TX
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Is he an addict? Well most people try to avoid police..not entirely normal for a teen to have legal issues...
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Old 12-03-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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My cousin who is e 20 in the States has been caught trying to receive benzos with a forged prescription. I read it's a felony there so pretty serious. He seemed to think that "most teens have run-ins with the law". Is this true? He specifies teens using fake age cards to enter and think's it a bit ridiculous that he's facing prosecution for forgery when in his mind, it's the same thing.

Leave what you think about his behavior aside, is it normal for teens/young adults in general to either have run-ins with the law (aside from things like driving over the speed limit) and/or getting a criminal record?

Most of my family are surprised because they think that it's mostly "lower class/ghetto" teens/young adults who face getting criminal records or people who hang out with the wrong crowd. My cousin is neither of those. But then again, he is a completely isolated loner so I suppose he never got the feedback from his peers that this was probably not the norm and very serious in eyes of the law.

What's your experience with this?
It's not normal or acceptable to be a criminal. Period.
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Willowbrook, Houston
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It's normal for ghetto youth to have police run-ins if they're involved in gangs or illegal activity. Even then, you have some ghetto children with solid values who never have police run-ins. In my old neighborhood, the police know many of the youth by name because the cops used to see them loitering in the streets at 8 and 9pm doing something they have no business doing.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Teens of color, especially black teens, and most especially black male teens are often targets of cops and do experience higher levels of harassment from the police. But it's not normal for most teens to actually have committed felonies and have to deal with potential jail time. If it is normal among your cousin's friends, he needs a new group of friends.
That's largely because they commit more crimes on the average.

I can see possession/consumption under 21 as being normal. Forged prescriptions is serious, and indicative of serious drug abuse or dealing.
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Old 12-07-2018, 05:43 AM
 
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My cousin who is e 20 in the States has been caught trying to receive benzos with a forged prescription. I read it's a felony there so pretty serious. He seemed to think that "most teens have run-ins with the law". Is this true? He specifies teens using fake age cards to enter and think's it a bit ridiculous that he's facing prosecution for forgery when in his mind, it's the same thing.

Leave what you think about his behavior aside, is it normal for teens/young adults in general to either have run-ins with the law (aside from things like driving over the speed limit) and/or getting a criminal record?

Most of my family are surprised because they think that it's mostly "lower class/ghetto" teens/young adults who face getting criminal records or people who hang out with the wrong crowd. My cousin is neither of those. But then again, he is a completely isolated loner so I suppose he never got the feedback from his peers that this was probably not the norm and very serious in eyes of the law.

What's your experience with this?
When what is in his mind matches more closely with reality he will begin to grow up. What he thinks is ridiculous is irrelevant. I'd be more worried about the bezos.
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