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Old 06-10-2019, 11:50 PM
 
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All possible scenarios involving this girl........... lead to calling law enforcement.
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Old 06-11-2019, 03:36 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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I wonder if she was in ‘the system’ & her ‘parents’ were really foster parents. The way some kids get bounced around from place to place; she could have been confused as to her location & schedule.

A couple of months ago I was at the Dollar store with my disabled 15 year old & saw a boy about his age walking aimlessly around in the parking lot. About the time I went to the register he came in & asked to use their phone. I watched him try & dial several times but never did talk to anyone. When I was putting my son in the car he came outside & just kind of forlornly leaned against the wall wiping his eyes.

Ugh. I couldn’t stand it. It was was late, dark & cold. We’d had packs of coyotes roaming the neighborhoods at night as well. So I asked him if he needed help & I ended up driving him home.

Turns out he was a student at my son’s former middle school down the road & his dad had never shown up to pick him up from Track practice at 5 pm. It was then 8:45 pm. Not only that but he was sure somebody was home & that they just weren’t answering the phone.

Who can forget a kid for almost 4 hours & then not be worried enough to be practically sitting on the phone waiting for it to ring?

I drove up to his house & sure enough there were lights on. Nice house in a way more expensive neighborhood than where I live, yet the kid didn’t have a phone.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw the hindquarters of something canine looking slinking into his neighbor’s backyard so I waited out front until I saw him be let in. I had given him my phone number, in case his parents were concerned & wanted to know who’s car he had been in but nobody ever called.

I just couldn’t understand how a parent wouldn’t even realize that ‘something was missing’ at almost 9 pm on a school night. Something felt off but I knew he wasn’t about to ask me for help. Poor kid.
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Sugarland
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I wonder if she was in ‘the system’ & her ‘parents’ were really foster parents. The way some kids get bounced around from place to place; she could have been confused as to her location & schedule.

A couple of months ago I was at the Dollar store with my disabled 15 year old & saw a boy about his age walking aimlessly around in the parking lot. About the time I went to the register he came in & asked to use their phone. I watched him try & dial several times but never did talk to anyone. When I was putting my son in the car he came outside & just kind of forlornly leaned against the wall wiping his eyes.

Ugh. I couldn’t stand it. It was was late, dark & cold. We’d had packs of coyotes roaming the neighborhoods at night as well. So I asked him if he needed help & I ended up driving him home.

Turns out he was a student at my son’s former middle school down the road & his dad had never shown up to pick him up from Track practice at 5 pm. It was then 8:45 pm. Not only that but he was sure somebody was home & that they just weren’t answering the phone.

Who can forget a kid for almost 4 hours & then not be worried enough to be practically sitting on the phone waiting for it to ring?

I drove up to his house & sure enough there were lights on. Nice house in a way more expensive neighborhood than where I live, yet the kid didn’t have a phone.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw the hindquarters of something canine looking slinking into his neighbor’s backyard so I waited out front until I saw him be let in. I had given him my phone number, in case his parents were concerned & wanted to know who’s car he had been in but nobody ever called.

I just couldn’t understand how a parent wouldn’t even realize that ‘something was missing’ at almost 9 pm on a school night. Something felt off but I knew he wasn’t about to ask me for help. Poor kid.
Yeah, that’s sad.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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It's not a plausible story for many reasons, which makes it suspicious.

She could have been bait for a purse snatcher, kidnapper who was after you etc. It happens, and it happens in suburban areas with Starbucks.

Police want you to call them to assess the situation. They don't want you to stand there and try to figure this out yourself. Whether you call 911 or the non-emergency number is up to you, but in my mind a minor who seems stranded needs help ASAP.
It could be a paranoid thought- but you should trust your gut feeling when feeling uneasy regarding a situation.
The story is too implausible... parking lots a prime location for all kind of shenanigans.
It could be on a dare- somebody was watching from Starbucks if the girl would get money for “ transportation”
One scenario- you kind enough to offer a lift: somebody follows you in a car to a remote spot/ unsafe neighborhood the girl is taking you and who knows? They attack you? Take your purse? Take your car?
If a man: they may accuse you of rape attempt, kidnapping, etc in an attempt to get money?

I would call 911 or police non emergency number with report of an alleged teen in a strange situation.
( if she would be running from a pimp or in some danger like that- she would be among people at the store, Starbucks and not loitering in a parking lot)
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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I wonder if she was in ‘the system’ & her ‘parents’ were really foster parents. The way some kids get bounced around from place to place; she could have been confused as to her location & schedule.

A couple of months ago I was at the Dollar store with my disabled 15 year old & saw a boy about his age walking aimlessly around in the parking lot. About the time I went to the register he came in & asked to use their phone. I watched him try & dial several times but never did talk to anyone. When I was putting my son in the car he came outside & just kind of forlornly leaned against the wall wiping his eyes.

Ugh. I couldn’t stand it. It was was late, dark & cold. We’d had packs of coyotes roaming the neighborhoods at night as well. So I asked him if he needed help & I ended up driving him home.

Turns out he was a student at my son’s former middle school down the road & his dad had never shown up to pick him up from Track practice at 5 pm. It was then 8:45 pm. Not only that but he was sure somebody was home & that they just weren’t answering the phone.

Who can forget a kid for almost 4 hours & then not be worried enough to be practically sitting on the phone waiting for it to ring?

I drove up to his house & sure enough there were lights on. Nice house in a way more expensive neighborhood than where I live, yet the kid didn’t have a phone.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw the hindquarters of something canine looking slinking into his neighbor’s backyard so I waited out front until I saw him be let in. I had given him my phone number, in case his parents were concerned & wanted to know who’s car he had been in but nobody ever called.

I just couldn’t understand how a parent wouldn’t even realize that ‘something was missing’ at almost 9 pm on a school night. Something felt off but I knew he wasn’t about to ask me for help. Poor kid.
Still prime time to call a police which could lead to CPS hopefully.
What if next time this happened and somebody will harm, take advantage of the kid?
CPS needs to get to the bottom of the situation like that
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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911 really? I’m not American, so maybe this is a cultural thing, but I don’t see where a teenager standing in a Starbucks parking lot in broad daylight is worthy of emergency services. Is she really in danger right then? Is a crime being committed?

Is this some huge rural area? Do kids normally get picked up by school buses at Starbucks an unwalkable distance from home? I’d offer to call her school for her and see her reaction. A teen of that age who can’t figure out how to get to school is weird. It’s possible she was giving you a line for some purpose.
We have a lot of crazy situations here and our legal system is very ( insert your favorite definition here)
I understand where your train of though is coming from living in Europe for a number of years.
It is very different here: huge country!
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:40 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I will say it again , you need a license to drive and you need a license to hunt and fish and yet any scumbag can be a sperm donor . And if you are not picking your kid up at almost 9 o'clock then you fall into the scumbag or sperm donor category take your pick .
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:41 PM
 
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No, lots of school districts have elaborate routing to get kids to magnet schools, etc. Sometimes there are central locations for pick up.

She could also have been under the influence and or homeless. There are lots of explanations. Regardless of what they were, it wouldn't have hurt for someone to check in with her.
Thanks for the correction, I haven't had to deal with school stuff for a while and am out of the loop.
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Old 06-11-2019, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Corchristi post:
A couple of months ago I was at the Dollar store with my disabled 15 year old & saw a boy about his age walking aimlessly around in the parking lot. About the time I went to the register he came in & asked to use their phone. I watched him try & dial several times but never did talk to anyone. When I was putting my son in the car he came outside & just kind of forlornly leaned against the wall wiping his eyes.

Corchristi I would have been tempted to contact the police regarding this so police can visit home and maybe give parents a wake up call.

To the OP: The girl may have been coached to not ask directly for money. She was trying to get you to offer her money for a cab ride home. But who knows what the money would have been used for. I would have called 911. I've called on some things I wasn't sure I should have called on, not many but a few. Police /911 say they would rather you call and let them decide what to do with call, if you are not sure. The few times I did call it was right thing to do. There was one time I didn't call and wish I did.
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Old 06-11-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Southern Most New Jersey
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I dealt with a similar situation 30 years ago.

I was working as a flight instructor at the time. Coming home around midnight after doing night training with a student. Tired as could be. About a mile from my house I saw a girl (maybe 16) walking the street in distress. I stopped, she said some boys were chasing her in a car. I did see a car speed off when I stopped to talk with her. Frankly I felt like bait. I told her I could not help. But as I pulled away common sense smacked me in the brain. I went back and the boys in the car were back. When they saw me again they took off. We were about 1/4 mile from a strip mall where I knew there was a telephone. I still was not sure about her and I told her walk ahead of my car to the strip mall and we would call the police. That is what we did. I stayed there until the police arrived. The officer thanked me for looking out for her.

I have had many successful dealings with the police thru the years. They have always been very helpful. When I call I call 911 (and I don't hesitate) and when they answer (if it is not an emergency) I tell them this is not an emergency but please connect me with local police and I tell them why. This always works.

That event changed the way I look at a lot of things. That girl was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I am sure plenty of drivers before me did not stop. And in the end I took no chances with my own safety. We just have to use common sense and think things thru.
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