Breastfeeding Older Children (infants, pacifier, learn, elementary school)

[ADVentive]

Originally Posted by mainerwoman

Nothing wrong with it and the kids probably come out a lot better balanced than half the folks in our society![/quote]
I really don't think so. Since everyone else has felt so free to quote countless studies, I will as well. Psychiatrists have found that children who form a "unnatural" bond with their parents do not grow up to be competent, productive members of society. I feel that if children are still nursing away at mommy's breasts when they should be forming relationships with their own peer group, then that may cause some problems relating to others.
You can form your own opinions. I don't believe in forcing anyone to share my opinions.

Here is my quoting of reputable sources to counter your supposed quoting of studies (did you actually quote a source here???):

American Academy of Pediatrics:
There is no upper limit to the duration of breastfeeding and no evidence of psychologic or developmental harm from breastfeeding into the third year of life or longer.

Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child.

American Academy of Family Physicians:
Breastfeeding beyond the first year offers considerable benefits to both mother and child, and should continue as long as mutually desired.

[Woof Woof Woof!]

Originally Posted by mainerwoman

Fear of what? Because I disagree with you I am afraid?

No idea, but your conclusions are not based on fact.

Those types of assumptions are mainly rooted in fear.

[121804]

Originally Posted by Woof Woof Woof!

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Fear of what? Because I disagree with you I am afraid?

No idea, but clearly your conclusions are not based on fact.[/quote]

If you expected everyone to base their conclusions on fact, this topic would have stopped from the first post. What is your intention of the post b/c you seem to be focusing on debate to debate & not the actual message.

No parent on here has breastfeed a 7 or 8 year old, so no one on here is speaking with fact, just stats & opinions.

[mainerwoman]

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Originally Posted by mainerwoman

I thin kyou are just grasping at straws here that don't exist. You have obviously missed all of the links posted in this and other related threads about how full term breastfeeding DOES NOT cause psychological damage. I believe there may also have been studies posted about how weaning too early can cause MORE problems! I would love to read your "studies" if you care to prove me wrong...

Yet another link about breastfeeding beyond infancy: LLLI | Breastfeeding Beyond a Year: exploring benefits, cultural influences, and more

Prophetic Charisma: The Psychology of Revolutionary Religious Personalities (1997) by Len Oakes

I read every link posted in this thread. Reading and agreeing are different things. What I stated was "extended breastfeeding may inhibit a child from forming peer bonds". The studies I have seen do not mention extended breastfeeding at all, only relationships with parents where the child does not separate at a normal time.

[ADVentive]

Originally Posted by 121804

Now, you are starting a whole other topic within a topic but a good one.

Yah, I know, and I don't want to derail the whole thread here, so I can just leave it at that. It was just to go to your argument of social acceptance, not to start a whole new topic!

I just feel that there comes a point in a child's life where it is the parent's responsibility to lead them from the breast & onto the next milestone. An 8 yr old is fully integrated in society & interacting with his/her peers. At this age, it's vital to start giving them the tools to get through that stage. Breastfeeding takes it back to infancy or toddler.

I understand what you are saying.

Are there any tribes or cultures where it is the norm to nurse at this age? We obviously now that in western culture & most Asian culture this is not something that is common practice based on many different values, beliefs & needs.

I doubt that it is the "norm" to nurse at this age anywhere given that it is at the far edge of the bell curve, so most kids would naturally wean earlier. The question is rather whether it is accepted to nurse at this age in other cultures, and I don't know the answer to that. I can say though that there is a tool on the WHO website that will show you the % of children still breastfeeding at 2 years old in various countries, and in some of them it's up around 90% still nursing at 2 years, so I would assume that those countries will still have a good % still nursing at much older ages too. I have the link bookmarked on my work computer if you are interested.

[ADVentive]

Originally Posted by mainerwoman

Prophetic Charisma: The Psychology of Revolutionary Religious Personalities (1997) by Len Oakes

I read every link posted in this thread. Reading and agreeing are different things. What I stated was "extended breastfeeding may inhibit a child from forming peer bonds". The studies I have seen do not mention extended breastfeeding at all, only relationships with parents where the child does not separate at a normal time.

Don't you think that is relevant when making a claim specifically about extended breastfeeding????

[mainerwoman]

Originally Posted by Woof Woof Woof!

No idea, but your conclusions are not based on fact.

Those types of assumptions are mainly rooted in fear.

You have made many assumptions about myself and other woman posting on this thread, none based on real facts. So your assumptions must be based on fear as well. I nursed both of my daughters, my second until after 2 years. I understand the benefits of breastfeeding. I am a advocate of it. I thought this thread was a great debate because it deals with a topic that isn't discussed much in society. The thread has gone from a debate to a slang match. I have a right to a different opinion. Just as you do. I no longer feel that I can speak freely without being attacked with groundless accusations. Suddenly I am ignorant, afraid and unable to form an opinion without help. This discussion has done nothing to educate anyone.

[Woof Woof Woof!]

Originally Posted by mainerwoman

You have made many assumptions about myself and other woman posting on this thread, none based on real facts. So your assumptions must be based on fear as well. I nursed both of my daughters, my second until after 2 years. I understand the benefits of breastfeeding. I am a advocate of it. I thought this thread was a great debate because it deals with a topic that isn't discussed much in society. The thread has gone from a debate to a slang match. I have a right to a different opinion. Just as you do. I no longer feel that I can speak freely without being attacked with groundless accusations. Suddenly I am ignorant, afraid and unable to form an opinion without help. This discussion has done nothing to educate anyone.

Mainerwoman --

What I wrote in my earlier post is that you made two assumptions about extended breastfeeding:

(1) It forms an unnatural bond between the child and mother.
(2) It keeps a child from forming relationships with peers.

You haven't added anything thus far to back up those assumptions. No research. No data. No convincing arguments. Instead you just get more and more reactive and upset that anyone even questioned you.

[mainerwoman]

Originally Posted by ADVentive

Don't you think that is relevant when making a claim specifically about extended breastfeeding????

What I stated was perhaps extended breastfeeding caused children to not make connections with their peer group at the crucial time. The studies I discussed in the original posts only spoke of this and what ha
ppens to children who do so.

[mainerwoman]

Originally Posted by Woof Woof Woof!

Mainerwoman --

What I wrote in my earlier post is that you made two assumptions about extended breastfeeding:

(1) It forms an unnatural bond between the child and mother.
(2) It keeps a child from forming relationships with peers.

You haven't added anything thus far to back up those assumptions. No research. No data. No convincing arguments. Instead you just get more and more reactive and upset that anyone even questioned you.

I am not upset about being questioned. I am disappointed that topics can't be discussed without people slammed for having an alternative belief.
You have also made assumptions about extended breastfeeding. Nothing wrong with it and the kids probably come out a lot better balanced than half the folks in our society![/ You have no firm proof that children of extended breastfeeding are any better balanced then other children, but you feel free to do so. Where are your facts, data? If ever belief needed to be backed up by studies then we wouldn't have much to believe in