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Old 01-08-2009, 05:37 AM
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Oh no no no. I am not aggitated. You said you covered up so no one was uncomfortable. I was just saying that it makes me uncomfortable to cover up. It makes me feel like I'm doing something dirty to cover up. It makes MY daughter uncomfortable and unable to feed as well when SHE is covered up.

So who's rights are more important? I'm uncomfortable if I cover up, SOME are uncomfortable if I don't! Who gets the "right to" and who "doesn't?"

They banned the photos to PROTECT the population as a whole????

I think we need to find out if her profile was private. That could end this all. If it WAS, facebook is out of line. If NOT, she needs to comply with THEIR rules since it is public.
actually, if facebook says no nudity, it doesn't matter if the profile is public or private. If it was a coed flashing her ****, then everyone would be on her caller her a tramp, but since it's breastfeeding....
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:43 AM
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I totally agree with you here. My only problem with the "majority rule" thing is that the majority HERE and in some other situations are usually ignorant people who look for anything to complain about. So it makes them look like the majority when in fact they are NOT. There is a huge group AGIANST this ruling but where is the HUGE GROUP FOR the ruling????? Doesn't sound like much of a majority to me.

The only way to find out what the people on facebook REALLY think is to require a question and answer form at registration on ALL topics.

By the way, I have a facebook and I ALWAYS see the F word. If there is a rule against profanity, where are the people complaining about that?? Are they ok with the F work and NOT NATURALLY eating babies? And if there is NO rule against such disgusting words, maybe me and a SMALL group of people can complain and have THAT changed too?????
kind of like the presidential election???
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Old 01-08-2009, 05:49 AM
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Colorado law says that employers have to provide a private room for employees to pump their milk, not for nursing.

Yes, absolutely, having kids does mean accepting some inconveniences but it does not mean that nursing mothers need to plan all of their outings between their child's feedings. I never followed any kind of feeding schedule but rather nursed my baby on demand. I wouldn't have been able to leave the house for more then an hour at a time, at most, if I planned my outings around my child's feeding schedule. There is also no need for a mother to nurse her child while sitting on a toilet. It doesn't really matter if the toilet is sparkling clean or filthy. A mother shouldn't have to isolate herself either by staying at home, or by sitting in a toilet stall in order to feed her baby.

Just because people are pro-breastfeeding does not mean that they are judging women who bottle-feed. I'm sure some do but it goes both ways, some women who bottle feed judge women who breastfeed. I've definitely felt judged by others for breastfeeding. It happens on both sides,

I do think that it's important for society to support nursing mothers and so does the CDC, the US Dept. of Health and Human Services, the WHO, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Family Physicians. The CDC and the US Dept. of Health and Human Services have set goals in order to increase breastfeeding rates in the US. They have done this because the health benefits of breastfeeding are well documented for both babies and their nursing mothers.
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As far as Facebook banning breastfeeding photos...It doesn't surprise me. Like others have said, it is a private company and they can make whatever rules they want. As a consumer, I can choose to use their service or not. However, I do find it really sad that people are so against mothers nursing their babies in public.
I would like to know where they get these stats. Personally I think that a lot of the illnesses "caused" by bottle feeding have to do with the ignorance of the parent (propping bottles, giving a bottle at bedtime in the crib). All of these infections seem to be upper respiratory and ear, places the formula tends to drain when baby falls asleep with bottle in the mouth.
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:39 AM
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I think people who are so very offended by others being offended by breastfeeding in public, are misconstruing the entire debate and twisting it to justify themselves.

I haven't heard EVEN ONE PERSON AGAINST breastfeeding and breastfeeders jump on their horses and try to make this about breastfeeding. It isn't; it's about doing something in front of people that offends them. It's about having some kind of perverse need to justify yourself and put it in everybody's faces. Do you pick your nose in front of the general public? No, because it isn't socially acceptable. It's offensive. We all have noses, and my bet is that every one of us pick them, but in private.

It isn't the breastfeeding that offends anyone, it's doing it out in public where husbands, children and anyone who really prefers to not see a woman whip out a breast and feed in front of them.

Get off your high horses with the health benefits and rights. Bottom line is: NOT ALL OF US THINK YOUR BREASTS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL THAT WE NEED TO SEE THEM IN PUBLIC. And it's the breast that is the offending object, not the baby. If you want to flaunt yourself in public, go to Europe where it's more acceptable. Here it isn't.
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:55 AM
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Get off your high horses with the health benefits and rights. Bottom line is: NOT ALL OF US THINK YOUR BREASTS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL THAT WE NEED TO SEE THEM IN PUBLIC. And it's the breast that is the offending object, not the baby. If you want to flaunt yourself in public, go to Europe where it's more acceptable. Here it isn't.
Uh huh, and that's why this debate is equally about women wearing low cut tops, right? Breasts are sooooooo offensive. From looking around, it seems pretty acceptable here to flaunt your breasts in bikini tops, tube tops, sports bras being worn as shirts, low cut tops, push up bras. It's also considered acceptable by the vast majority to breastfeed in public. If someone doesn't like my 19-year-old SIL wearing a push up bra and a low cut top, they can roll their eyes and look away, though she doesn't typically get that response. She's more likely to get that response when nursing her infant. Sex sells boobs, babies don't.
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Uh huh, and that's why this debate is equally about women wearing low cut tops, right? Breasts are sooooooo offensive. From looking around, it seems pretty acceptable here to flaunt your breasts in bikini tops, tube tops, sports bras being worn as shirts, low cut tops, push up bras. It's also considered acceptable by the vast majority to breastfeed in public. If someone doesn't like my 19-year-old SIL wearing a push up bra and a low cut top, they can roll their eyes and look away, though she doesn't typically get that response. She's more likely to get that response when nursing her infant. Sex sells boobs, babies don't.
Cry me a river...
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So many women these days think breast feeding their babies is a dirty proposition. Mainly because of the over-use of commercial baby formulas in recent years and the over sexualization of the woman's body in today's society Also I think mother's aren't teaching the importance of such an act to their daughters. It seems a taboo subject for some strange reason.

Afterall, how many mom's want saggy breasts and milk leaks these days? Especially in the workplace? That's one of the problems; the onslaught of women in the workplace trying to have it all. So, even if a woman starts feeding for the antibody protection/health of the baby, etc. she will more than likely stop it all together by six weeks when she dumps the kid off in childcare of some kind and figures she's done enough.

It used to be common place to see mothers nursing their little one (and some even up to the age of two!) and no one gave it a second thought or look.

As for taking pictures and those pictures being offensive. How ridiculous can it get? There are bigger issues to concentrate and bigger "offensive" material to ban-lol.

Get a life!
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Cry me a river...
Oh I won't, and didn't cry over it, and neither did my babies... I just "whipped it out" and nursed wherever I was! No one ever said anything to me about it either, other than "good for you!" If anyone did say anything to me, I would have just shrugged and continued doing what I was doing. Contrary to many of the opinions expressed in this thread, in my experience (three years' worth!), most people give nursing moms the thumbs-up for nursing their babies and toddlers, in public even!

Welcome back, by the way.
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So many women these days think breast feeding their babies is a dirty proposition. Mainly because of the over-use of commercial baby formulas in recent years and the over sexualization of the woman's body in today's society Also I think mother's aren't teaching the importance of such an act to their daughters. It seems a taboo subject for some strange reason.

Afterall, how many mom's want saggy breasts and milk leaks these days? Especially in the workplace? That's one of the problems; the onslaught of women in the workplace trying to have it all. So, even if a woman starts feeding for the antibody protection/health of the baby, etc. she will more than likely stop it all together by six weeks when she dumps the kid off in childcare of some kind and figures she's done enough.

It used to be common place to see mothers nursing their little one (and some even up to the age of two!) and no one gave it a second thought or look.

As for taking pictures and those pictures being offensive. How ridiculous can it get? There are bigger issues to concentrate and bigger "offensive" material to ban-lol.

Get a life!
Among many circles, especially of stay at home moms, it is still very common to see women nursing their children in public. I know that among my friends and myself, our children are fully aware of the importance of breastfeeding. My daughter nurses her baby dolls, and my son talks about being the dad who goes to work so his wife can stay home and take care of their babies. I know that we're probably in the minority, but not alone!
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It used to be common place to see mothers nursing their little one (and some even up to the age of two!) and no one gave it a second thought or look.
It may have been commonplace, but go back to when it was and you will realize that modesty was a huge factor. Before so many bottlefed, and breastfeeding was much more common, so was modesty. You NEVER saw women sitting in a mall, or on an airport floor vying for the attention with their breasts hanging out. You would NEVER see a woman breastfeed in pictures plastered on the web (It didn't exist back then, but if it had, women wouldn't be plastering their private moments on it). Women breastfed DISCREETLY, even when in public.

My mother breastfed 5 babies. She would rather die than to have exposed herself in public, yet for some reason, we all had enough to eat and none of us grew up thinking she should have bared herself in front of everybody for the sake of us and our nourishment. Go figure...

My children were breastfed, but not once was it necessary to flaunt it in front of anyone, and they grew up well adjusted and well nourished. Go figure.

Why is it so very necessary these days to bare a breast and stick it out there for everyone to see? Is it a badge of honor to show that you breastfeed? I think it's more for the woman trying to show everybody she is breastfeeding than for the health and well-being of the child.

If you want to know the truth, it's actually HEALTHIER for babies to be fed in a personal, quiet surrounding than out in the open where there is a lot of activity and strangers. It's terribly distracting for babies, and they don't eat like they should when strangers are around and there is a lot of activity.

So, for whom is the public display of breastfeeding benefitting? ONLY THE WOMAN. Not the baby, and not the people exposed to her flaunting.
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