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Old 06-18-2019, 05:11 AM
 
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at birth
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That's what I came in here to say.
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It's never appropriate, and only teaches a child physical violence is acceptable.
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It should never even start.
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Ditto. A person of any age is too old to spank IMO. Violence begets violence.
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Another for at birth. Spanking is NEVER permissible, IMHO.
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Agreed!!
I have to vote my conscience here;

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Why do we have prisons?

Why do we have police officers?

Why do we have weapons?

Oh, and violence is NEVER the answer? Tell that to anybody who was rescued from any captor, or defended themselves from any assault ever.

Let's just abolish all those things too and, have some rainbow, fairy, magical, care-bear reality and, wonder why we have a bunch of lazy, disrespectful, slackers who in some cases become dangerous criminals.

Because there are some people who only respect force and violence, and it is not solely because they were struck as children.

Some people desire to either hurt others or, take what isn't theirs. They are just born with no empathy, and can only be discourgaed with the concept of greater force. Granted, too much force makes a person this way, no question there. However, it's best to spank a little kid, than for them to grow up thinking they won't get thrown in prison... and then they do.

I look at striking a kid as using a weapon, it absolutely is horrible. It is but, it needs to be a non-zero possibility.

Absolutely, explanation, guidance and, compassion should come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Still, no amount of people will ever make 2+2=5, which is basically what y'all are doing.

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Old 06-18-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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I have to vote my conscience here;

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Why do we have prisons?

Why do we have police officers?

Why do we have weapons?

Oh, and violence is NEVER the answer? Tell that to anybody who was rescued from any captor, or defended themselves from any assault ever.

Let's just abolish all those things too and, have some rainbow, fairy, magical, care-bear reality and, wonder why we have a bunch of lazy, disrespectful, slackers who in some cases become dangerous criminals.

Because there are some people who only respect force and violence, and it is not solely because they were struck as children.

Some people desire to either hurt others or, take what isn't theirs. They are just born with no empathy, and can only be discourgaed with the concept of greater force. Granted, too much force makes a person this way, no question there. However, it's best to spank a little kid, than for them to grow up thinking they won't get thrown in prison... and then they do.

I look at striking a kid as using a weapon, it absolutely is horrible. It is but, it needs to be a non-zero possibility.

Absolutely, explanation, guidance and, compassion should come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Still, no amount of people will ever make 2+2=5, which is basically what y'all are doing.
Why are you comparing spanking in which the parent who is supposed to love the child and protect him or her to self-defense from criminals. They are not the same.

Why do you think we have so many criminals? Violence begets violence. You will not find any criminals who were raised in non-spanking homes although you may find some who were totally neglected by their parents.

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Old 06-22-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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I have to vote my conscience here;

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Why do we have prisons?

Why do we have police officers?

Why do we have weapons?

Oh, and violence is NEVER the answer? Tell that to anybody who was rescued from any captor, or defended themselves from any assault ever.

Let's just abolish all those things too and, have some rainbow, fairy, magical, care-bear reality and, wonder why we have a bunch of lazy, disrespectful, slackers who in some cases become dangerous criminals.

Because there are some people who only respect force and violence, and it is not solely because they were struck as children.

Some people desire to either hurt others or, take what isn't theirs. They are just born with no empathy, and can only be discourgaed with the concept of greater force. Granted, too much force makes a person this way, no question there. However, it's best to spank a little kid, than for them to grow up thinking they won't get thrown in prison... and then they do.

I look at striking a kid as using a weapon, it absolutely is horrible. It is but, it needs to be a non-zero possibility.

Absolutely, explanation, guidance and, compassion should come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Still, no amount of people will ever make 2+2=5, which is basically what y'all are doing.
What do they do in say, Sweden, where spanking has been against the law since the 70's? Actually, over 50 countries ban spanking.

Their kids are less violent according to studies. America is a pretty violent country but maybe we could change that.

The 30 countries with full bans on corporal punishment (which apply to schools and homes) experienced 69 percent lower rates of physical fighting among adolescent males and 42 percent less for females.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...nt/1809639002/

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Old 06-22-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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I have to vote my conscience here;


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Why do we have prisons?

Why do we have police officers?

Why do we have weapons?

Oh, and violence is NEVER the answer? Tell that to anybody who was rescued from any captor, or defended themselves from any assault ever.

Let's just abolish all those things too and, have some rainbow, fairy, magical, care-bear reality and, wonder why we have a bunch of lazy, disrespectful, slackers who in some cases become dangerous criminals.

Because there are some people who only respect force and violence, and it is not solely because they were struck as children.

Some people desire to either hurt others or, take what isn't theirs. They are just born with no empathy, and can only be discourgaed with the concept of greater force. Granted, too much force makes a person this way, no question there. However, it's best to spank a little kid, than for them to grow up thinking they won't get thrown in prison... and then they do.

I look at striking a kid as using a weapon, it absolutely is horrible. It is but, it needs to be a non-zero possibility.

Absolutely, explanation, guidance and, compassion should come 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Still, no amount of people will ever make 2+2=5, which is basically what y'all are doing.
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The light blue states in this map prohibit corporal punishment of children in schools. The dark blue states allow it. If your claim - that spanking prevents future crime - then those dark blue states should have lower crime rates than the light blue states.



Yet of the 15 states with the lowest violent crime rates, only 3 of them allow corporal punishment in schools.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...the-us-states/

As for incarceration in general, the 19 states with the lowest incarceration rates do not allow corporal punishment in schools. The 12 states with the highest incarceration rates? They all allow corporal punishment in schools.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...pervision_rate

You know what's, to quote you, 'STUPID'? It's making empty claims without bothering to check and see if those claims are actually borne out by the evidence. And that's precisely what you've done.

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Old 06-23-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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Hi folks!

Can we sort of cool it with the insults? --Thanks!

Enjoy the rest of the weekend,
~June
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