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Old 04-28-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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I've never had a school official tell me or suggest to me how to discipline my children. I imagine I'd probably look at them incredulously for a moment and then say my husband and I would deal with the problem at home. That would be the end of it.
I might too, depends if I'm in the mood for a pointless confrontation or not? Its one of those battles not worth fighting, hence why I'd probably just agree to get out of there that much sooner, since its not really worth arguing about and I'm still going to do what I want regardless of what they say, so why take the time to argue it
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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Have your kids ever gotten in trouble at school and the school expected you to carry punishment thru to the home as well?

I realize it depends what the issue was, but..

If you didn't really agree that what they did was all that bad, did you voice it out and have a drawn out battle with the school or did you play along and let them believe you were going to give Junior a stern talking to when you got home and then didn't really do it?

My son defended himself in a fight. I talked to him about at home and I'm sorry but I couldn't come down on him for defending himself. I felt what he did what right in the given circumstance: a very human response against any aggressor. He got suspended for a day for fighting and the school expected he'd learn his lesson at home. But what was I really supposed to do? He ended up just tagging along with me on errands that day.

I did tell him I don't want him fighting, but if someone starts it, I won't get mad about him for finishing it or at least defending himself.
Yes this has happened to two of my three sons. In both cases my sons were standing up for someone who was being attacked (in one case the child being hit was nearly defenseless). I was proud of them in both cases as I expect them to defend the defenseless rather than stand and allow them to be hurt.

I told my kids what I thought. I told them that I didn't think it was worth it to fight with the school that they should just serve out their punishment at school without comment. I did not do anything else as I didn't really feel that they had done anything wrong.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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I might too, depends if I'm in the mood for a pointless confrontation or not? Its one of those battles not worth fighting, hence why I'd probably just agree to get out of there that much sooner, since its not really worth arguing about and I'm still going to do what I want regardless of what they say, so why take the time to argue it
I agree. It just makes you look like a parent who is there to cause trouble. I just let them be.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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We tell our son to follow the school rules but sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. You can explain that at home to your kid.

If the school has a problem with that, they are not doing their job protecting him.
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:39 PM
 
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We tell our son to follow the school rules but sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. You can explain that at home to your kid.

If the school has a problem with that, they are not doing their job protecting him.
The school's logic is "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one". ie they are there to protect everyone at the school, students and staff and if Junior is causing a problem, then Junior can take a hike for all they care. I hate it. Its the law that the kids go to school, yet it becomes the parent's problem if they get suspended or even expelled.

They are too free and easy with the punishments and passing off the problem to someone else rather than trying to help and take care of the problem.
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:38 PM
 
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Have your kids ever gotten in trouble at school and the school expected you to carry punishment thru to the home as well?

I realize it depends what the issue was, but..

If you didn't really agree that what they did was all that bad, did you voice it out and have a drawn out battle with the school or did you play along and let them believe you were going to give Junior a stern talking to when you got home and then didn't really do it?

My son defended himself in a fight. I talked to him about at home and I'm sorry but I couldn't come down on him for defending himself. I felt what he did what right in the given circumstance: a very human response against any aggressor. He got suspended for a day for fighting and the school expected he'd learn his lesson at home. But what was I really supposed to do? He ended up just tagging along with me on errands that day.

I did tell him I don't want him fighting, but if someone starts it, I won't get mad about him for finishing it or at least defending himself.
Suspension is not a punishment.
That is why I am in favour of corporal punishment.
Suspension is a holiday for the child.
Suspension is the school saying 'We give up' or 'The regulator took away a key disipline tool so here have the problem'.
Suspension is a punishment on the parent who ends up having to take a day or two off work to look after said kid.

My bed is that few parents would actually implment punishment as a result of a kid being suspended. Either because the parent is a thinking parent does not think the offence is worth punishing (as is the example of the thread starter) or because the parent is not capapble of punishing anyway and has probably given up or is worn out or frustrated by the kid already and does not know what to do.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:09 PM
 
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To the public school I would just say, "I'll take care of it" and nothing more or less. (This was the advice given to me by teacher friends.)
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:09 AM
 
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Suspension is not a punishment.
That is why I am in favour of corporal punishment.
Suspension is a holiday for the child.
Suspension is the school saying 'We give up' or 'The regulator took away a key disipline tool so here have the problem'.
Suspension is a punishment on the parent who ends up having to take a day or two off work to look after said kid.

My bed is that few parents would actually implment punishment as a result of a kid being suspended. Either because the parent is a thinking parent does not think the offence is worth punishing (as is the example of the thread starter) or because the parent is not capapble of punishing anyway and has probably given up or is worn out or frustrated by the kid already and does not know what to do.
agree on all counts of what you said

The parents have to take time off work. The kid gets to be off school. The school passes the problem off to someone else. Its not a lesson learning tool. Never has, never will. Eventually Junior gets expelled and then what? Home school if you can't afford a private school? Which means the parent has to quit their job?
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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To the public school I would just say, "I'll take care of it" and nothing more or less. (This was the advice given to me by teacher friends.)
This sounds about right to me. I don't feel I need to explain to them HOW it will be taken care of, just that it will be taken care of.
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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This sounds about right to me. I don't feel I need to explain to them HOW it will be taken care of, just that it will be taken care of.
I agree. I usually just play along unless its something serious and that needs to be addressed
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