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Old 05-05-2009, 04:20 AM
 
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on the flip side there was no internet, computers and chat rooms for kids to draw in predators "in our day". Like it or not the world we knew is much smaller and more dangerous today. I'm not willing to take a chance and let my liltte boys play outside alone and let some stranger in a van whisk them off. When they can fend off an adult, then I will relax.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:29 AM
 
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on the flip side there was no internet, computers and chat rooms for kids to draw in predators "in our day". Like it or not the world we knew is much smaller and more dangerous today. I'm not willing to take a chance and let my liltte boys play outside alone and let some stranger in a van whisk them off. When they can fend off an adult, then I will relax.
I agree to this.

Back when we were younger communities were smaller and people knew most of their neighbors within a neighborhood. Now a days communities have grown and neighbors are constantly changing and everyone is to busy to meet their neighbors and get to know them. Backyard neighborhood barbeques and get togethers are no more.

I live in a relative small community, but it is larger today than it was when I was growing up. I only know a handful of neighbors in my neighborhood. Within two blocks either way of my house, I only know 10 maybe 11 neighbors and that is counting both sides of the street. Whereas, my folks knew 3-4 times more than that when I was a kid maybe even more.

I think kids were safer back in my days of roaming around than they are today, because there was always someone watching out for you even if you weren't aware of it. My parents were always kept abreast about all that I was doing because someone would always call and let them know that they saw me doing such and such with so and so. There was no way of getting into trouble, because your parents would find out about it before you ever came home.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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The woman sounds like a terrible example of a parent! It is not safer today than it was when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, and it's definitely not safer than when my parents were growing up in the 40s and 50s.

My kids get to play outside, but it's at a local park and either my wife or I are there in the background. Are we overprotective? Some will say yes, many will say no. I believe it's selfish for parents to just let their kids "roam" the streets while they go about their business. Parents need to spend more time with their kids. Build that relationship. It goes fast.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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If parents a couple of generations ago could accept the fact that a ten-year old could drive a tractor, is it not incumbent on parents today to accept the fact that their early-teen has homromes running through his/her body that need, somehow, to be addressed? Pubescent children with natural curiosity are going to explore themselves and their peer society, whether you like it or not. Pretending that they are "too young", when their hormones are flowing, is not a very realistic or healthy approach. Any kid who wants to view porn on the internet is developing a body that is physically capable of viewing porn on the internet and finding it interesting.

It is very frightening, to me, that there are parents who believe that their child is too young to mastrubate. Any child that wants to is old enough to. Making the child feel shame and guilt for it is not a very healthy approach, and it is going to come back and bite you. If a child is old enouth to mastrubate, he/she will do it. And will invent ways to increase the excitement of it, which may be from porn on the internet, or may be from sharing experiences with their peers. This is no more dangersous now than it was when you were a pubescent explorer.

Your kids need your understanding and rational guidance, not your head in the sand. It is not good parenting to keep a child a grounded prisoner in perpetuity, out of fear that a center-fold will fall open if you turn your back.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:29 AM
 
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Where did this whole subject of porn come up? We're talking about kids being safe outside. My kids are in elementary school and I guess many of you may consider me an overprotective parent. And seriously, 10 year olds don't ride tractors these days. Sure maybe some do on the farm but we're suburbanized. Maybe a ten year old was driving a tractor to help on the family farm, but that is far from the norm. My mom lived in the country on three acres and didn't drive a tractor. She sold eggs in an elevator in her dad's office building...does that count?
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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Where did this whole subject of porn come up? We're talking about kids being safe outside. My kids are in elementary school and I guess many of you may consider me an overprotective parent. And seriously, 10 year olds don't ride tractors these days. Sure maybe some do on the farm but we're suburbanized. Maybe a ten year old was driving a tractor to help on the family farm, but that is far from the norm. My mom lived in the country on three acres and didn't drive a tractor. She sold eggs in an elevator in her dad's office building...does that count?
At ten, I was just being an army-brat 4th grader trying to fit in with kids that clearly didn't like me. I spent most of my time with my cat and dogs, playing football board games and reading alotta books and talking to my mom while we were errand running.

I did wander the neighborhood we lived in quite a bit and felt totally safe. I'd collect golf balls I found in the bushes from the Country Club we lived nearby. I guess my mom tossed those a long time ago. Those were safer days tho, and I'd never let my kids do it today.
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Where did this whole subject of porn come up? We're talking about kids being safe outside. My kids are in elementary school and I guess many of you may consider me an overprotective parent. And seriously, 10 year olds don't ride tractors these days. Sure maybe some do on the farm but we're suburbanized. Maybe a ten year old was driving a tractor to help on the family farm, but that is far from the norm. My mom lived in the country on three acres and didn't drive a tractor. She sold eggs in an elevator in her dad's office building...does that count?
Every kid whose dad had a tractor, knew how to drive at at age ten. Convince me that kids nowadays are incapable of learning to do that responsibly. The subject of porn came up because over-protective parents are unable to offer of any other reason to overprotect their kids, except one parent a few posts back who was concerned that there is so much traffic now, the kids will be run over by cars.
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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Every kid whose dad had a tractor, knew how to drive at at age ten. Convince me that kids nowadays are incapable of learning to do that responsibly. The subject of porn came up because over-protective parents are unable to offer of any other reason to overprotect their kids, except one parent a few posts back who was concerned that there is so much traffic now, the kids will be run over by cars.
for the record I'm not worried about the porn issue either. Not only does he not use our computers, but even if he tried there's passwords he doesn't know and all sorts of parental blocks.

I too am more concerned with traffic and predators, than whats on the computer, or even tv. Even the tv has parental blocks against certain rated shows, so we're good there.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:26 PM
 
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for the record I'm not worried about the porn issue either. Not only does he not use our computers, but even if he tried there's passwords he doesn't know and all sorts of parental blocks.

I too am more concerned with traffic and predators, than whats on the computer, or even tv. Even the tv has parental blocks against certain rated shows, so we're good there.
Same here. I am not worried about porn on the internet or anywhere else for that matter that my kids could view. I am more worried about the adults who view kiddie porn on the internet and where ever as well as traffic and predators.

We don't have parental blockers or filters beyond what our computer came with to block porn sites and I haven't caught my kids viewing it either. Our computers are in an open area where everyone can see what is being viewed on the monitors. We have some sort of parental blocker that came on the t.v. and we only have MTV blocked on three out of four of our satelite recievers.(That is only because MTV is no longer just music videos and my DH and I can't stand the music when there is videos and not because of the lyrics or videos but because of the music in general, I miss the 80's music something terrible) the 4th one is unblocked because it is in what used to be my oldest's room and she likes todays music. We do not subscribe to the playboy channel or any other porn t.v. so the worst my kids would see is rated R programs which they end up going eewww sick and either change channels or leave the room when they see something they shouldn't be seeing.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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What you guys need to do is worry about the friends of any older siblings your child may come into contact with. I think these older kids pose far more of a danger.

If you have an 11 year old, let's say, and he goes over his friend's (who is 12) and the 12 year old has a big brother 14 or 15 years old and HE has his friends over...well, who knows...

You can say, kids are safe from other kids but I think parents don't realize many assaults are kid on kid...(older on younger). That sort of thing worries me than some 'possible stalking by an adult.' Kids do not know how to say 'no' to their peers (or older kids) sometimes...

We tell our kids look out for strangers, adult males, mainly...well, how do you explain there are some bad 'kids' out there...You can say you know your child's friends and their parents but do you know the child's siblings/companions?
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