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Old 06-06-2009, 09:21 PM
 
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This situation is somewhat personal,but it is becoming concerning now after a recent phone call from my daughter's school...
I am looking for similar ,sincere stories and hope that others will be able to keep their parenting critques to a minmal here. Thanks!

My oldest has always had a very difficult time when moving her bowels. It isn't that she doesn't go,it is that it is very difficult for her to go. We have spoken to her pediatrician several times and have had a few tests done and there isn't really a medical issue. They suggested some over the counter medicine that seems to have slowly helped things...
The problem is that ever since we can remember (since she has been potty trained), she for some reason,likes to take her clothes off when moving her bowels. She says that she is uncomfortable. (sometimes I can understand as she is in the bathroom for a very long time).
I really have not thought about it much at home ,but had a situation this past week where for the very first time,she had to use the bathroom at school.
We have always told her that IF she needs to move her bowels at school,to please ask the nurse if she can use the bathroom in her office. (I Have also spoken to the nurse about this so she was aware)..
She did this the other day and apparently took all of her clothes off in that bathroom. Now,it was a private bathroom and she didn't ask for any assistance from the nurse for anything,but the nurse checked in on her once and was alarmed that she had nothing on. (as I guess I would be too!)
The nurse contacted me at home and I was somewhat made to feel that she felt this was inappropriate and that they were concerned about this behavior...

I was wondering if anyone else's child(ren) do this? I have talked to a few people who do have children who went through a stage like this or know someone else who has,etc...
I have talked to my daughter again about it and she does understand,but at the same time,I don't want her to be discouraged now from using the bathroom if she really needs to at school...

I would appreciate any similar stories or suggestions...

 
Old 06-06-2009, 09:36 PM
 
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My daughter has had problems with constipation since she was an infant. She too is on medication (miralax) since she was very young. AND you will be glad to know she does anything she can to feel more comfortable when in the bathroom and constipated, like remove all of he clothes. When she is constipated she get hot/ sweaty/ uncomfortable and finds the clothes restricting.... She has not done this at school however. Now, I am a teacher by trade and I am thinking as if I were walk in this one.... I think the reason the Nurse called is to protect HERSELF. If that makes any sense at all. The laws are SO strict for teachers and support staff with protecting children (AS THEY SHOULD BE!!!) I am sure she just wants to protect herself. She has to check on your daughter to make sure she is alright in the bathroom, but she also has to be sure to keep SAFE for her. If that makes sense. I know you want your daughter to feel comfortable using the nurse's bathroom, and as a parent of a child with similar problems I totally understand. I would just explain to the nurse that it was a comfort issue and won't happen again. I don't think there is anything wrong with it. If you need to you can call your Pediatrician and talk to them.... I wouldn't worry about it. I think the nurse was more worried about covering her own butt on this one to be honest.
 
Old 06-06-2009, 09:40 PM
 
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wow, I would probably explain to the nurse that you have no problem with her taking her close off and perhaps the next time she wants to check on your daughter she could knock on the door and ask if she is ok. your daughter has the right to privacy. I would think in the regular public bathroom this could be a problem. but in a bathroom with a ful door she should be able to do what makes her comfortable. don't let the school nurse make you or your daughter uncomfortable. if it is ok with you and it is in private it is really none of the nurses business how she goes about it.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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Default Would a compromise work?

Perhaps you could tell your daughter that it's OK to take her clothes off at home where she has privacy, but it's not a good idea to remove them in a public place.

I understand that taking her clothes off makes her feel more comfortable, but it's not always going to be practical, especially as she gets older. Maybe just being allowed to use the nurse's bathroom will gradually allow her to relax enough to eventually go while clothed.

Also, the time it takes to remove and put on her clothes will only add to the time she's away from her classroom missing instruction, exercises and social opportunities.

My niece has a similiar problem. Her pediatrician and a specialist haven't found any physical reason for it. My sister in law has recently changed her diet to reduce the amount of starchy foods she eats and add more high-fiber foods and it seems to have eased a bit.

She is also looking into finding a child psychologist who could offer some insight as the doctor has suggested that it could be a control issue.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 07:02 PM
 
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Perhaps you could tell your daughter that it's OK to take her clothes off at home where she has privacy, but it's not a good idea to remove them in a public place.

I understand that taking her clothes off makes her feel more comfortable, but it's not always going to be practical, especially as she gets older. Maybe just being allowed to use the nurse's bathroom will gradually allow her to relax enough to eventually go while clothed.

Also, the time it takes to remove and put on her clothes will only add to the time she's away from her classroom missing instruction, exercises and social opportunities.

My niece has a similiar problem. Her pediatrician and a specialist haven't found any physical reason for it. My sister in law has recently changed her diet to reduce the amount of starchy foods she eats and add more high-fiber foods and it seems to have eased a bit.

She is also looking into finding a child psychologist who could offer some insight as the doctor has suggested that it could be a control issue.

Thanks Yes,we are concerned about the fact that it isn't practical.
I truly do believe that part of the problem is with my daughter's diet.. She is extremely picky and will very rarely eat anything GREEN! hence,a lack of fiber!
I have been able to to start buying those fiber enriched items they sell,but don't want her to have to much of it either. We only eat wheat bread here for sandwiches but she is a carbs girl,that is for sure!
Pasta,rice... she does eat fruit pretty well and drinks a ton of water!
I have though started having her drink plum juice in the am with her breakfast (she will not drink oj or apple juice) and that seems to be helping somewhat.

As for school... she will hopefully grow out of this ,thank goodness only a few more days of school here and hopefully the Summer months will change things!

Thanks to everyone for their responses so far...!
 
Old 06-07-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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Thanks Yes,we are concerned about the fact that it isn't practical.
I truly do believe that part of the problem is with my daughter's diet.. She is extremely picky and will very rarely eat anything GREEN! hence,a lack of fiber!
I have been able to to start buying those fiber enriched items they sell,but don't want her to have to much of it either. We only eat wheat bread here for sandwiches but she is a carbs girl,that is for sure!
Pasta,rice... she does eat fruit pretty well and drinks a ton of water!
I have though started having her drink plum juice in the am with her breakfast (she will not drink oj or apple juice) and that seems to be helping somewhat.

As for school... she will hopefully grow out of this ,thank goodness only a few more days of school here and hopefully the Summer months will change things!

Thanks to everyone for their responses so far...!
In terms of diet.... believe it or not what was causing the constipation for my daughter was Milk Protein. She has outgrown the allergy for the most part and I can have her eat certain things in limited quantities... but never over indulge... A lot of people always try and tell me milk cannot cause constipation and they tell me I am wrong.... We had her tested for allergies and she was put on a reduction diet and THAT was the cause.... Just a thought if she is eating too much cheese or drinking too much milk....
 
Old 06-07-2009, 07:22 PM
 
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Something that works better than anything is a cup of yogurt (Breyers w/fruit is good) every morning with chopped walnuts or almonds. It takes a few days or a week to see a difference, but if kept up makes moving a whole lot easier and it's better than medication or prune juice. A lot of water is also helpful.

How old is your daughter? The clothes thing could become more of a problem as she grows older.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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Something that works better than anything is a cup of yogurt (Breyers w/fruit is good) every morning with chopped walnuts or almonds. It takes a few days or a week to see a difference, but if kept up makes moving a whole lot easier and it's better than medication or prune juice. A lot of water is also helpful.

How old is your daughter? The clothes thing could become more of a problem as she grows older.
Now the yogurt every morning would totally do my daughter in. Have you talked to the Ped's office about a food allergy?
 
Old 06-07-2009, 07:40 PM
 
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My daughter, just turned 6, holds in until coming home. I know she was scared of the old yellowing and noisy-gurgly school toilets at the beginning of this school year, and apparently she's still afraid. She's gone from 7:30 to 2:30. She doesn't pee all this time - 7 hours! She comes home, kicks off her shoes and backpack, and runs to the bathroom. - And her Primary grade classroom has its' own washroom with a single toilet, and there is a common washroom with stalls just outside the classroom.

It's mostly the #1 she's holding, she does #2 at different times. Just wanted to share problems, though not exactly taking clothes off.

I myself, as a child, was constipated and I know what a hard work it was to work it out, so to say. I would get frustrated sitting on the toilet. I would do it once every 7 or 10 days. My parents consulted with a pediatrician and she recommended stool-softening foods, mostly important, prunes. Prunes help! If they are wrinkled-dry, softening them overnight in water will make them more palatable.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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Now the yogurt every morning would totally do my daughter in. Have you talked to the Ped's office about a food allergy?
It was just a suggestion and it works for us. Tons of kids eat yogurt.
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