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Why - because my feelings are different from yours? It seem to me I said - what goes on in ones home is their choice. So I guess it's ok for me to accept your beliefs but you dont' have to accept mine?? And YOU feel sorry for ME? oookaaay.....
I said that because always feeling the need to be covered up even in ones home doesn't sound very comfortable emotionally or physically. I am not ashamed of my body, neither is my daughter.
We have even gone skinny dipping before, shock surprise.
Next time we go on the Disney cruise and end up on St. Maarten, we will once again go to the nude beach on the French side.
I said that because always feeling the need to be covered up even in ones home doesn't sound very comfortable emotionally or physically. I am not ashamed of my body, neither is my daughter.
We have even gone skinny dipping before, shock surprise.
Next time we go on the Disney cruise and end up on St. Maarten, we will once again go to the nude beach on the French side.
Who is having more fun?? My daughter and I.
Good for you ...would you feel the same if you had a son instead of a daughter?
No one in my family is ashamed of their bodies - we just believe that nudity has a time and a place like many other things. There is a time and a place for seriousness, for silliness, for reflection, for study, for talking and sharing.....does that mean if I teach my kids that in church, in the middle of the sermon, is not the time for goofing off or chit-chat that I feel goofing off or chit chat is WRONG or something to be ashamed of? No - it simply means it's not the appropriate setting....
I've always taught my kids to protect their body. I'm not so concerned about them being naked, in our home with just us there or even in our backyard running through the sprinkler in their underwear. (we live in the country with privacy) DH says, "Heck, its the only time they can do it."
I think though that learning to protect yourself starts with teaching children as young as possible to keep themselves covered. Since it can be confusing for a 2 year old to know when its expectable it much better to just teach them not to be running around naked to begin with, which in I mean all around the house any hour of the day. But do understand that our kids are more independent to begin with, each being able to fully bathe and dress themselves by age three, our daughter was the exception because she had more hair so I would step in to make sure it was all rinsed out until about age 4. I would make it easy on myself and even take baths with the kids until they were about 2 years old. That is when it was when they had pretty decided that they didn’t want me to wash them, they wanted to do it on their own and only needed me to be in the room to help and keep them from drowning.
That being said, we walk in on them, they run nude after bath time to their bedrooms, although the two oldest prefer covering their butts and fronts to hide from each other. Our 7 year old is much more modest, being about 12 in mind, she’s prepubescent in behavior and thought so she asks us to respect her space, especially “the boys” (including her dad, lol.) She’s cool as long as we promise not to look.
But what gets me is the 7 year old that staying with us for the week. I asked him to go take a bath and he starts crying like a 2 year old because he didn’t want to get into the water. I had to shoo his 11 year old brother out of the bathroom because he thought he was going to bath him. I told him he was old enough. He wanted me to wash his hair for him. I was gentle and reminded him he was a big boy and how proud he was of himself last year when he learned while he was with us.
So he’s been in their long enough and it’s time I go in and make sure he’s not playing around. I knock, give him about 5 seconds before walking in, and the kid is masturbating, with no regard to me coming in! That is why I knocked, right? A bit shocking cause my 5 year old would never be caught doing this in front of his mom, since we‘ve taught where and when this type of behavior is expectable. Our three year old has only done this a couple times in the last year. (He’s uncircumcised and things are changing, which must feel different or weird. My oldest showed us his “knew trick“ when that happened to him so now we’re just counting the days until the second one does, lol.) For the 7 year old, it was a bit off putting. I just asked if he’d washed his hair, which he hadn’t and reminded him and headed out right away.
Then enter 15 year old sister. She says she has to go in to hurry him up (aka bath him), that’s what she has to do at home. I told her that he feels pride in being a big boy and that he’s just fine. But she insists on standing with the bathroom wide open and watching him.
(Remind you…he’s got no problem masturbating in front of people and I have a daughter who is 7 years old as well. I‘d like her to get out and shut the door if you don’t mind, but opted to just keep DD away from that area of the house.)
Then when he’s done, she wants to dry him off. No, no, he’s fine. Then she wants to dress him. No no, he’s fine hun. Remember the big smile he gets, being so proud to be a big boy.
The same went with getting a glass of water from the tap. Pouring his own cereal and milk. Choosing to play Monopoly. Everything. His sister and brother, following suit of their parents in their absence, tried to poo poo it. The look of pride in his face after each little challenge made it all worth it.
Don’t get me wrong though, he likes to be babied. He pouts, whines and hits to try and get his way. I have a three year old who is more self sufficient then he is, though about as mature, and that is just sad. I feel so bad for him.
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Part of what modivates our opinion is that DH started puberty at age 8. If my sons do, I want them to know what is exceptable. I do not want a kid going through puberty thinking its ok to run around my house naked. A bit more weird cause we've have both girls and boys.
Of course, our opinions are also shaded with that fact that the child molestors on my side of the family are very thick, more than 50% of the guys, when you include all boys starting in puberty and taking out their curiosity on children who are three years or more younger than they are.
There are perverts out there and it's better to be safe than sorry. The nudity they do have, its kind of refreshing to me just knowing that its untainted, natural, and pure I guess. They don't need more and increase their risk of being targeted.
Last edited by flik_becky; 07-16-2009 at 11:07 PM..
Good for you ...would you feel the same if you had a son instead of a daughter?
No one in my family is ashamed of their bodies - we just believe that nudity has a time and a place like many other things. There is a time and a place for seriousness, for silliness, for reflection, for study, for talking and sharing.....does that mean if I teach my kids that in church, in the middle of the sermon, is not the time for goofing off or chit-chat that I feel goofing off or chit chat is WRONG or something to be ashamed of? No - it simply means it's not the appropriate setting....
YES, I would feel the same way if I had a son.
Nudity does not equal sex no matter how much some would like it to be.
I understand that. Trust me. I just also understand there is a difference, going into puberty of comfort levels with one's parents. I'm glad you enjoy yourself with your daughter - truly. I just don't understand how you can have such lack of understanding for other, more traditional choices. I personally, wear clothing all day and do not find it constricting or bothersome in the least. I would personally feel quite uncomfortable if my co-workers (much as I like them and in a non-sexual way) were to decide one day that clothing was bad and came to work in their birthday suits. TMI for me thanks.
I said that because always feeling the need to be covered up even in ones home doesn't sound very comfortable emotionally or physically. I am not ashamed of my body, neither is my daughter.
We have even gone skinny dipping before, shock surprise.
Next time we go on the Disney cruise and end up on St. Maarten, we will once again go to the nude beach on the French side.
Who is having more fun?? My daughter and I.
I just had one random thought, on the funny side...sand in the crack, lol. No thank you.
Alex Nicola, who will be 5 in August, enjoys being naked as frequently as possible at home.
"In the morning he gets up and takes his pajamas off, and rather than get dressed right away, he walks around naked," said Dawn Nicola, Alex’s mother, a stay-at-home parent in Castle Rock, Colo.
Thinking about this too is the germ aspect. Do I really want a kid who is still learning to wipe their rear sitting that rear on our furniture? I paid a lot of money for that furniture. Not only that, we eat there. I would not feel right knowing guests sit there. Right after a bath I guess I don't really see the issue. Maybe in their underware, sure, as long as you don't have a house full of company. Just not a bare dirty rear on my furniture. Thats not cool with me.
Thinking about this too is the germ aspect. Do I really want a kid who is still learning to wipe their rear sitting that rear on our furniture? I paid a lot of money for that furniture. Not only that, we eat there. I would not feel right knowing guests sit there. Right after a bath I guess I don't really see the issue. Maybe in their underware, sure, as long as you don't have a house full of company. Just not a bare dirty rear on my furniture. Thats not cool with me.
I understand that. Trust me. I just also understand there is a difference, going into puberty of comfort levels with one's parents. I'm glad you enjoy yourself with your daughter - truly. I just don't understand how you can have such lack of understanding for other, more traditional choices. I personally, wear clothing all day and do not find it constricting or bothersome in the least. I would personally feel quite uncomfortable if my co-workers (much as I like them and in a non-sexual way) were to decide one day that clothing was bad and came to work in their birthday suits. TMI for me thanks.
What I am trying to say is because she has been free to be naked at home, she is NOT sensetive about her body and the changes she is going through now. She thinks nothing of it in fact.
I personally HATE wearing clothes but usually at least have on a T-shirt. My daughter often has her clothes off before she is 5 feet inside the front door.
What I am trying to say is because she has been free to be naked at home, she is NOT sensetive about her body and the changes she is going through now. She thinks nothing of it in fact.
I personally HATE wearing clothes but usually at least have on a T-shirt. My daughter often has her clothes off before she is 5 feet inside the front door.
Well if that's what works for your family then AGAIN, good for you. Why must my choice be unacceptable and something you feel the need to "feel sorry" for? We are perfectly comfortable in our clothing.
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