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My personal opinion is it would take a sick mind to preceive those darling pictures anything other then just that--darling pictures I am not a big "sue-happy" type person but I hope this couple gets a ton for this misjustice!!!!
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Yet it points to a real problem with this issue. There isn't a picture in this world that someone can't find sexually suggestive. Take a picture of a speculum on a blank background, someone is going to get turned on by that. Is the fault of the photographer? Is the photograph wrong? Who bears responsibility for the *thoughts* another person has when looking at a picture?
Take a picture of a foot. Just a foot. Nothing else. Perfectly normal to most people here. Pornography to someone from the Middle East. Are we to blame the photographer for that? Or the viewer?
My daughter wears dresses. She plays hard. If a person sees her panties while she's jumping around and gets turned on, is that *my* fault? Am *I* responsible for *his* thoughts? If someone sees that in real life, it is not a crime. But if I have a picture that shows the same thing, that *is*?
Amazing. It seems child services has forgotten it's mission of protecting children against REAL abuse.
Last year our school superintendent called child services to report that a teacher was having sleepovers with two of his students. She had spoken to the teacher and sent him a written warning, but he refused to stop. The teacher's union prevented her from firing him because "there was no proof that any abuse was taking place." Her goal was to have child services help her get the proof she needed to fire him.
Less than a month later she got a letter from the head of the child services investigations unit saying that, based on her complaint, there wasn't enough evidence to warrant an investigation.
Two weeks ago, the two little boys who were having the sleepovers with their teacher told a relative they had been abused sexually, exposed to pornography and smoked pot with the teacher for the past three years. The teacher was arrested and confessed to most of the crimes, although he later pleaded not guilty at his arraignment.
It's unbelievable that the sleepovers weren't a good enough reason for this pervert to be investigated. Yet, photos of kids in a bathtub were enough to have kids taken away.
These types of stories like above have ALWAYS baffled me. Why? WHERE WERE THE PARENTS THAT APPROVED FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO SPEND THE NIGHT WITH THE "TEACHER"? I mean HELLO! Or HELL-O! If your 10 year old comes home and says that Mr. or Mrs. So-so from school invited him/her to come to their house for a "sleepover"........... would you REALLY take your kid there? Why would this not seem strange? To me it is a HUGE red flag. Why on earth would a GROWN ADULT ask to have CHILDREN come to a "sleepover" at their house? The parents of these innocent kids are just as much to blame as the person that actually did the crime.
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As for the pictures in question.................... someone at Walmart needs to get a job. And NOT proofing pictures. The mother LOST HER JOB over this as she worked at the elementary school. Their lives and their childrens lives are ruined forever. Because of background checks the parents can't even go to the school and eat lunch with their kids or chaperone field trips or read to the kids in the class. Then who investigated the household where these kids were kept for a MONTH away from their parents. How many stories have we seen/heard of that the foster family actually abused the child and some have even died in foster care.
This whole story is pathetic. I hope the family wins big against Walmart for this one.
The whole thing was blown out of porportion but I don't think it was WalMart.
People developing photos are constantly told to be on the look out for child porn..The WalMart clerk was probably a little over zealous but the clerk is not an expert.
It was turned over to the experts who should have patted the clerk on the head saying..well your heart's in the right place but there's nothing wrong with these photos.
I don't want people who develop pictures to ever feel the need to turn the other way.
The whole thing was blown out of porportion but I don't think it was WalMart.
People developing photos are constantly told to be on the look out for child porn..The WalMart clerk was probably a little over zealous but the clerk is not an expert.
It was turned over to the experts who should have patted the clerk on the head saying..well your heart's in the right place but there's nothing wrong with these photos.
I don't want people who develop pictures to ever feel the need to turn the other way.
Put the blame where it belongs....on CPS.
i agree with this - the photo clerk making $8/hr isn't trained to know what is what - they are just following basic guidelines and I dont' want them being gun shy in cases where there is actually something going on
it's up to the experts who have the experience to come in and decide which way to take the case
Geez, in some countries, maybe MOST countries, its perfectly natural for kids to run around naked until they're school age. I've been to beaches in Europe where most of the kids were naked and most of the adults were barely dressed, no one was being weird about it. I let my 2 and 4yr old run through our backyard sprinkler in their undies this summer...maybe a neighbor saw...maybe I should be investigated!
Really I think the sexualizing of children's bodies is such a shame. There are not perverts on every corner, really people need to relax.
The whole thing was blown out of porportion but I don't think it was WalMart.
People developing photos are constantly told to be on the look out for child porn..The WalMart clerk was probably a little over zealous but the clerk is not an expert.
It was turned over to the experts who should have patted the clerk on the head saying..well your heart's in the right place but there's nothing wrong with these photos.
I don't want people who develop pictures to ever feel the need to turn the other way.
Put the blame where it belongs....on CPS.
I agree with this. Though a pat on the head is not quite what I have in mind.
Geez, in some countries, maybe MOST countries, its perfectly natural for kids to run around naked until they're school age. I've been to beaches in Europe where most of the kids were naked and most of the adults were barely dressed, no one was being weird about it. I let my 2 and 4yr old run through our backyard sprinkler in their undies this summer...maybe a neighbor saw...maybe I should be investigated!
Really I think the sexualizing of children's bodies is such a shame. There are not perverts on every corner, really people need to relax.
Sadly, as a society, we are allowing fear to erode our freedoms.
Department of Family Services by law has to investigate
and remove the children, in addition the article states, they found more evidence.
Doesn't imply guilt, there just doing there job. When you take and then allow others
to view photos of your children nude, your opening yourself up to an investigation
and rightfully so, use some common sense.
On the flip side you'd be amazed at how much parents can do and get away with.
After making reports myself for 10yrs about my own grand childs living situation,
DFS just removed her from her mothers custody this
week, sad, but at 13, she finally found she has a voice that counts.
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