Rank Pennsylvania's Cities (Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, York: incomes, tax, move to)

[julian17033]

Originally Posted by AreyouMentallyRetarded

Dumb. You picked a serial molester popular in the news now and so wittily said I was him. ZING!!

You must be as stupid as your posts.

Your lack of command of the English language is only surpassed by your lack of decorum and civility.
Come to think of it we had a janitor at the college I teach at that sounds alot like you.

I told him the same thing I'll tell you; Shut up, know your place and get back to work before we fire you.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

Theres that "fact-less Philly Booster" syndrome again ....Can you back this up with some actual facts this time...

I don't hate Philly....But again...I'm SICK and TIRED of Philly Boosters trying to marginalize Pittsburgh as some insiginificant 2nd Class City, not on a level as Philadelphia when there's simply no data to support those claims outside of simple population figures.

I think there is a huge disconnect on both sides of the argument. I think mostly everyone in the state agrees that Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are indisputably ranked as the top 2 cities in Pennsylvania. Where the main disconnect comes in is that most Philly posters believe that Philly is the clear #1 ranked city in the state and deserves the utmost respect for that, similarly to how cities like Chicago and New York City get the respect from their states. I also think that most Philly posters thought people from Pittsburgh saw themselves as having the #2 city in the state and that they were happy with that title of being 2nd, only trailing behind Philadelphia. A city like Buffalo, NY would be a great example of that in regards to New York City.

As for the disconnect on the Pittsburgh side, I think that Pittsburgh posters feel like their city is just as great as Philly and is on the same tier level. When a Philly poster says that their city is the clear #1 ranked city in the state, the Pittsburgh posters see that as in insult because the view Pittsburgh to be just about as equal to Philly.

[Gnutella]

Pittsburgh does not compare to Philadelphia.

Philadelphia is among the metropolitan areas with 5,000,000 to 7,000,000 population, and has the amenities and economic output befitting one. Pittsburgh is among the metropolitan areas with 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 population, and has the amenities and economic output befitting one. If Kansas City and Orlando can't compare to Philadelphia, then neither can Pittsburgh, period.

Philadelphia runs in a pack with Atlanta, Boston, Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, Miami, San Francisco/Oakland and Washington DC. Pittsburgh runs in a pack with Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Denver, Kansas City, Orlando, Portland, Sacramento, St. Louis, San Antonio and Tampa/St. Petersburg.

[Magritte25]

Originally Posted by julian17033

Comparing Pittsburgh to Philly is like comparing Lancaster to New York City.

You can't compare Pittsburgh to Philly because they are two completely different cities.

Pittsburgh is a small and isolated place that has done well with it's revitalization efforts.

Philly is a huge metro area encompassing three states and is a world ranked entity.

Remember your place.

Originally Posted by Evergrey

1. Pittsburgh

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the rest is irrelevent

Are you kidding me?

[Magritte25]

I've never been to Pittsburgh, but I have a very favorable impression of the city. I know people who live there, have lived there or went to school at University of Pittsburgh and all rave about the city.

I also know that Pitt has consistently ranked as one of the most livable cities in the country:

Move over, Honolulu; Pittsburgh's No. 1 in U.S. - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

America's Most Livable Cities - Forbes.com

Pittsburgh rated 'most livable' once again - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Pittsburgh named 7th best place to raise a family - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

In Pictures: The World's Cleanest Cities - Forbes.com

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Pittsburgh does not compare to Philadelphia.

Philadelphia is among the metropolitan areas with 5,000,000 to 7,000,000 population, and has the amenities and economic output befitting one. Pittsburgh is among the metropolitan areas with 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 population, and has the amenities and economic output befitting one. If Kansas City and Orlando can't compare to Philadelphia, then neither can Pittsburgh, period.

Philadelphia runs in a pack with Atlanta, Boston, Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, Miami, San Francisco/Oakland and Washington DC. Pittsburgh runs in a pack with Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Denver, Kansas City, Orlando, Portland, Sacramento, St. Louis, San Antonio and Tampa/St. Petersburg.

Really and just outline what having that bigger population brings to Philadelphia over Pittsburgh economically......If that's you're case then SF is not on the level of LA but SF does compare even excels over LA in many metrics and LA gets no more attention from California than SF does...Pittsburgh and Philly are in the exact same boat...PERIOD!

and if Philadelphia was so significant over Pittsburgh the state of PA wouldn't be able to treat the cities as equals going back as far as the Casey Administration. Tell me what does Philadelphia get from PA that Pittsburgh misses out on??? NOTHING that's what

Oh and looks like Rand McNally disagrees with you.

Originally Posted by SweethomeSanAntonio

Ranally city rating system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

city rating descriptionExamples (* indicates a complete listing)1-

*1 AAAAUnique rating for New York New York City

*1-AAAUnique rating for Chicago and Los AngelesChicago, Los Angeles

*1-AA Major national business centers Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Miami, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Francisco, and Washington, D.C. (13 cities)

*1-A Other national business centersBaltimore, Cincinnati, Columbus, Denver, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Oklahoma City, Phoenix, Portland, San Antonio, San Diego, and Seattle (14 cities)

*2-AA Major regional business centersAlbany, Albuquerque, Allentown, Austin, Baton Rouge, Birmingham, Buffalo, Charlotte, Columbia, Dayton, Des Moines, El Paso, Grand Rapids, Harrisburg, Hartford, Honolulu, Jackson, Jacksonville, Knoxville, Las Vegas, Lexington, Little Rock, Louisville, Madison, Memphis, Nashville, New Haven, Norfolk, Omaha, Orlando, Peoria, Providence, Raleigh, Richmond, Rochester, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, Shreveport, Spokane, Springfield, MA, Syracuse, Tampa, Toledo, Tucson, Tulsa, West Palm Beach, Wichita, and Youngstown (48 cities)

*2-BBSecondary major regional business centersAkron, Fort Lauderdale, Fort Worth, Oakland, St. Paul, St. Petersburg, San Jose, Wilmington

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

As for the disconnect on the Pittsburgh side, I think that Pittsburgh posters feel like their city is just as great as Philly and is on the same tier level. When a Philly poster says that their city is the clear #1 ranked city in the state, the Pittsburgh posters see that as in insult because the view Pittsburgh to be just about as equal to Philly.

So back your claims up...if Philly is clearly number 1 (outside of just its population numbers) what does it get from PA that Pittsburgh doesn't show me where Philadelphia dominates in state dollars over Pittsburgh?

I can't find one thing since 1980's where Philadelphia got more state dollar than Pittsburgh....Even fast Eddie Rendell (remember Philadelphia's mayor and die hard everything Philly) push major Pittsburgh projects over Philadelphia. Tom Ridge did the same thing with the stadiums and convention center, John Street had to publicly outcry that Philly gets those same dollars.

If Philadelphia and Pittsburgh were NYC and Buffalo, then noway would the state of PA get away with treating them as equals Philadelphia in its own right would be syphoning the overwhelming majority of state dollars in its direction and its not Rural PA makes sure of that....So no Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are not NYC/Buffalo situation. Pittsburgh and Philly are more of a LA/SF situation.

For Pittsburgh you have to look past its Raw Population numbers....it offers culture amenities and out performs economically well above its population weight every visitor and major publication has made notice of this...

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

City of Pittsburgh produces a higher GDP than the City of Philadelphia.

Blackbeauty do you realize how ridiculous^ this^ statement sounds? Philadelphia has a population of 1.5 M compared to Pitts 300k. You unearthed some bad info.


Your SF to LA anaolgy is also faulty. SF region per capita is much wealthier than the LA area but greater Pitttsburgh IS NOT wealthier than the Philly region. In fact the Philadelphia region easily outclasses Pitt in' this regard. Of the 10 meto Philadelphia counties 7 of them are top 100 wealthiest in the usa.

[julian17033]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Blackbeauty do you realize how ridiculous^ this^ statement sounds? Philadelphia has a population of 1.5 M compared to Pitts 300k. You unearthed some bad info.


Your SF to LA anaolgy is also faulty. SF region per capita is much wealthier than the LA area but greater Pitttsburgh IS NOT wealthier than the Philly region. In fact the Philadelphia region easily outclasses Pitt in' this regard. Of the 10 meto Philadelphia counties 7 of them are top 100 wealthiest in the usa.

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Blackbeauty do you realize how ridiculous^ this^ statement sounds? Philadelphia has a population of 1.5 M compared to Pitts 300k. You unearthed some bad info.


Your SF to LA anaolgy is also faulty. SF region per capita is much wealthier than the LA area but greater Pitttsburgh IS NOT wealthier than the Philly region. In fact the Philadelphia region easily outclasses Pitt in' this regard. Of the 10 meto Philadelphia counties 7 of them are top 100 wealthiest in the usa.

I agree with what you said about the San Fran/LA argument. The thing about San Francisco is that it needs the entire Bay Area just to be mentioned in the same breath as Los Angeles. When you just compare the city propers and even MSA, the LA area blows it away. When it comes to the Philly/Pittsburgh comparison, I'm still trying to figure out how does Pittsburgh belong in the same tier level as Philly.