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Old 02-08-2012, 06:47 AM
Location: NE PA
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And as our governor releases another budget that shortchanges education and middle/lower class people, we apparently have the money to pay way too many members of the State House to sit around voting on nonsense bills like this one, and then they drive their taxpayer-funded luxury cars to a fancy restaurant and eat a taxpayer-funded lobster or steak. This state is a mess.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:50 AM
Location: Pennsylvania
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We're not an atheist nation, or a religious nation. There is no Constitutional endorsement of religion of irreligion. I don't understand why people take those 16 words and imbue so much additional meaning to them, as if there is some sort of religious imperative we are obliged to follow because:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
I'll be sure to send the Gospel of John and Letter to Romans to all the mosques and synagogues in the state (maybe the Jefferson Bible as well, although I guess they'd have even less use of that). Since they're Abrahamic religions they'll be pleased to read in one of their sacred texts they're on the highway to hell. They'd probably prefer their own version - sans the New Testament - which then, of course, wouldn't be the Bible that our state endorsed.

"No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth."

It does say anyone believing in a 'higher power' can hold office; it doesn't explicitly say anything about atheists not being allowed to hold office. Even if it was originally intended to be a backdoor way to ban atheists from office, it's DOA today because of Torasco v. Watkins.

Those excerpts are both prohibitive statements regarding establishment or public tests for religion, by the way, whereas HR 535 is endorses a religious text. More in keeping with tradition would have been to issue something like, "The commonwealth shall show no preference to any sect by designated any duration of time as honorific to that sect's sacred writings."

These are different times.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:00 PM
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This resolution was passed UNANIMOUSLY. What a waste of time. And I think it's a good point made that we should have a year of the Torah and Qu'ran. Some will argue that this is just a non-binding resolution, but remember it's put out there and voted on for a reason and "These resolutions offer a means for elected officials to publicly air the concerns of their constituents and are closely followed by major media outlets. Additionally, these resolutions can be used to state the position of the legislature, showing a preview of how they will vote on future legislation and budget allocations." Look for lots of funding to go to churches.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
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Oddly enough, I haven't seen anything about this in our local newspaper. I would think the media, not to mention the ACLU, would be all over this!
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