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Unread 06-28-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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Whatever their reason, it was the individuals who did it, NOT the university.
When people right on up to the president of the university were involved in the coverup, it absolutely was the university. That doesn't mean that the students are at fault, just like when the Catholic church covers for pedophile priests, we don't blame the parishioners....but that doesn't mean the Church still isn't at fault and shouldn't pay the price.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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Gee, big shocker, St. Joe Paterno had a bigger role in the coverup than the Kool Aid drinkers want to believe:

Joe Paterno influenced Penn State officials to keep quiet about Jerry Sandusky, emails reveal - NY Daily News

Doesn't surprise me, its always been obvious that Paterno was running the show at State Penn, and that the buck stopped with him. Anyone who thinks he was just the naive old innocent grandfather are just deluding themselves in the name of their football religion.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Gee, big shocker, St. Joe Paterno had a bigger role in the coverup than the Kool Aid drinkers want to believe:

Joe Paterno influenced Penn State officials to keep quiet about Jerry Sandusky, emails reveal - NY Daily News

Doesn't surprise me, its always been obvious that Paterno was running the show at State Penn, and that the buck stopped with him. Anyone who thinks he was just the naive old innocent grandfather are just deluding themselves in the name of their football religion.
While there will be some people who will continue to deny Paterno's responsibility and claim that this email doesn't prove anything, for many it will amount to the smoking gun.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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I've always figured Joe Paterno had a major role in the decades-long Penn State child rape cover-up. If he was still alive, he'd most likely be charged with perjury, failure to report and child endangerment.

As an alum, I will have no relationship with this university until they melt Paterno's statue, strip Paterno's name off the library, fire Spanier (he's still employed as a professor and is on sabbatical with the Dept of Homeland Security), open all records to the sunlight (Freeh investigation helps), admit institutional guilt, emphasize academics over football, and clearly outline procedures to prevent such a conspiracy from ever happening again. Never again shall a football coach be deified, endowed with powers beyond the control of the institution.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Planet Kolob
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I've always figured Joe Paterno had a major role in the decades-long Penn State child rape cover-up. If he was still alive, he'd most likely be charged with perjury, failure to report and child endangerment.

As an alum, I will have no relationship with this university until they melt Paterno's statue, strip Paterno's name off the library, fire Spanier (he's still employed as a professor and is on sabbatical with the Dept of Homeland Security), open all records to the sunlight (Freeh investigation helps), admit institutional guilt, emphasize academics over football, and clearly outline procedures to prevent such a conspiracy from ever happening again. Never again shall a football coach be deified, endowed with powers beyond the control of the institution.
Luckily for you, you have Pitt to fall back on. I have Kiski Area HS

I agree with everything you said. I never gave two craps about PSU football up there.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Luckily for you, you have Pitt to fall back on.
I've consoled myself with this many times.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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I've always figured Joe Paterno had a major role in the decades-long Penn State child rape cover-up. If he was still alive, he'd most likely be charged with perjury, failure to report and child endangerment.

As an alum, I will have no relationship with this university until they melt Paterno's statue, strip Paterno's name off the library, fire Spanier (he's still employed as a professor and is on sabbatical with the Dept of Homeland Security), open all records to the sunlight (Freeh investigation helps), admit institutional guilt, emphasize academics over football, and clearly outline procedures to prevent such a conspiracy from ever happening again. Never again shall a football coach be deified, endowed with powers beyond the control of the institution.
I agree with this 100000%. And I am a PSU alum as well.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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Here in the Lehigh Valley in Eastern PA it seems every store from Macy's to Marshalls to sporting goods stores have their PSU logo wear in the deep discount area.

A few days ago at Macy's they had PSU t-shirts ans sweatshirts at 80 percent off and it's looking like their just collecting dust.

Who want's to be affiliated with a "brand" that is now so tarnished that it will take decades to recover?
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Unread 07-02-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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I fully agree.


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I've always figured Joe Paterno had a major role in the decades-long Penn State child rape cover-up. If he was still alive, he'd most likely be charged with perjury, failure to report and child endangerment.

As an alum, I will have no relationship with this university until they melt Paterno's statue, strip Paterno's name off the library, fire Spanier (he's still employed as a professor and is on sabbatical with the Dept of Homeland Security), open all records to the sunlight (Freeh investigation helps), admit institutional guilt, emphasize academics over football, and clearly outline procedures to prevent such a conspiracy from ever happening again. Never again shall a football coach be deified, endowed with powers beyond the control of the institution.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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The comment that Paterno's family made about how shocked and upset they are that the emails were leaked is just alittle too self serving...they need to keep their mouths shut and their comments to themselves...
ANYONE who has someone come to them with a story that is halfway as inflamatory as what McQueary told Paterno about a young boy that MIGHT have been sodomized by someone who has regular access to similar children and did NOTHING has a can tied to his/her tail...
they can say that Paterno did what he was supposed to do legally but morally they know he failed to live up to his image/reputation as a molder of men...
he wanted to keep Sandusky's crimes in the shadows and as long as he used other places to assault his prey Paterno and everyone else who knew could live with that -- the idea that Sandusky was preying on young boys who had basically no other recourse was find with them...
that is a sucky attitude--and the guilt of the admin staff in the coverup is going to mean PSU will pay a HUGE damage suit to every one of those boys who testified...
AND those guys wll see jail time I bet--even Spanier with his holier than thou attitude

and doesn't it make anyone wonder why the boy in McQueary's story has not come forward???
IF he is alive he has to know this story has been out in the open for 6 mos---but no one has claimed to be that boy...
makes me wonder if Sandusky did not get rid of him--sell him into sex slavery because I bet he knows how to do that with his history...
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