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Old 07-23-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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The Shame on the Football Culture is now being displayed to the rest of the nation. The NCAA had acted and should have added more punishment to a University that has lost sight that football games is not the main function of a University.

Paterno is now being swept into history and perhaps now is sweeping the streets of Hades because of his disgusting crimes against children.

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Old 07-23-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Appears to me looking over some of your previous posts on football your motivation is to see football punished. One sample of many, bold is mine:



This is a bad enough situation as it is but people using it as a conduit to further their own agenda are just as disgusting.

It matters not what you say and what I have said. It matters what Paterno and the Football Culture has done; and Penn State proves, beyond doubt, the depravity of extreme football admiration and their gods above reasonable moral behavior.

Thank You for bringing up one of my great statements. Your defense of this culture is ridiculous. Very simply said!

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Old 07-23-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Planet Kolob
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I personally am getting sick of people judging us fellow Penn State Alumni from far reaches of this country that have probably never even been to State College or set foot on the Penn State Campus. The ones who are on here standing on some moral podium judging all of the fine Alumni, Researchers, and professors that did nothing to provoke this massive scandal that has happened. The ones who have the audacity to try to blame a freshman kid that paints his face blue and white, and goes to Beaver stadium to shout "We are Penn State" for the act of allowing child molestation. This annoying and obnoxious grandstanding of moral superiority is starting to get to me.

I am appalled by Paterno, Curley, and Spanier. I was never a big football fan when I went to school there. However, I am not going to point blame to PSU football fans as there are fans in every college, every city with NFL teams, and so forth. The issue here isn't the kids who were fanatical about their school's football team. It was the four men who hid this from their fans in fear of producing termoil that would melt their team's reputation. Which sickens me as well. But quit standing on your moral pedestal judging people.

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Old 07-23-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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I fully agree.

It will take decades for PSU to live down what indigent and asinine worshipers of a game at PSU yelled at the top of their lungs " We Are Penn State " because it is now " We Are Ped State".

The true hero's of any institution of higher learning are the professors and support staff within the halls, not the athletic department no matter how large and glamorous.

The suffering of those caught in the crossfire will continue for years.

The reality for the rest of PSU is as disgusting as the monster that created that reality.


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It matters not what you say and what I have said. It matters what Paterno and the Football Culture has done; and Penn State proves, beyond doubt, the depravity of extreme football admiration and their gods above reasonable moral behavior.

Thank You for bringing up one of my great statements. Your defense of this culture is ridiculous. Very simply said!

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Old 07-23-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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Well, you will have to live with the judgement of others because the NCAA official has stood on a pedestal, this morning, and judged; it fined Penn State and restricted the football activities based on perpetuating a "football first" culture. The NCAA certainly does not have an agenda of being against football because their whole existence is based on sports.

In addition, many professors, students and administrators have questioned the extreme football culture and were put down and denied a voice. Padding Grades; ignoring bad behavior of athletes; giving precedent to athletes over more deserving students--it has all been done at Penn State and all the other fanatical football universities. I have heard these people complain when I visited Penn State, many years ago, when Paterno was a sprouting god and the culture continued.

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Old 07-23-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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Appears to me looking over some of your previous posts on football your motivation is to see football punished. One sample of many, bold is mine:



This is a bad enough situation as it is but people using it as a conduit to further their own agenda are just as disgusting.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:04 AM
 
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Many who question the extreme football culture will get a first hand look at what happens to a school when it has their football program unfairly punished and taken down. Penn State is going to suffer across every area of its academic and sports programs, educational staff, students, local businesses. Students in particular are going to be negatively affected.
The NCAA is already being put into the crosshairs and being questioned for going too far and other schools may act to set limitations on just what they will allow them to impose on them.
I believe that the NCAA was grandstanding on this and will later go back and revise their decision " in the interest of fairness" when public interest in the case settles down.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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Many who question the extreme football culture will get a first hand look at what happens to a school when it has their football program unfairly punished and taken down. Penn State is going to suffer across every area of its academic and sports programs, educational staff, students, local businesses. Students in particular are going to be negatively affected.
There are plenty of fine successful universities in this country that do just fine without making any significant money from athletic programs. Look at the PA state system of universities, the education you can get at say, Bloomsburg or Millersville, is just as much of a quality education as a PSU education, with lower tuition. And while those Div-II schools do have athletics, my guess is that they do not make any significant revenue from them, in fact, they probably cost the schools money. So to say that a university will suffer unless they're raking in ungodly amounts of money from sports is false.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Many who question the extreme football culture will get a first hand look at what happens to a school when it has their football program unfairly punished and taken down. Penn State is going to suffer across every area of its academic and sports programs, educational staff, students, local businesses. Students in particular are going to be negatively affected.
The NCAA is already being put into the crosshairs and being questioned for going too far and other schools may act to set limitations on just what they will allow them to impose on them.
I believe that the NCAA was grandstanding on this and will later go back and revise their decision " in the interest of fairness" when public interest in the case settles down.
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There are plenty of fine successful universities in this country that do just fine without making any significant money from athletic programs. Look at the PA state system of universities, the education you can get at say, Bloomsburg or Millersville, is just as much of a quality education as a PSU education, with lower tuition. And while those Div-II schools do have athletics, my guess is that they do not make any significant revenue from them, in fact, they probably cost the schools money. So to say that a university will suffer unless they're raking in ungodly amounts of money from sports is false.
Exactly! Look at this list of Nobel Prize winners by university. How many big football powers are on there?

List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Newport, NC
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i fully agree.

It will take decades for psu to live down what indigent and asinine worshipers of a game at psu yelled at the top of their lungs " we are penn state " because it is now " we are ped state".

The true hero's of any institution of higher learning are the professors and support staff within the halls, not the athletic department no matter how large and glamorous.

The suffering of those caught in the crossfire will continue for years.

The reality for the rest of psu is as disgusting as the monster that created that reality.

we are penn state !!!
we are penn state !!!
we are penn state !!!
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