Paterno Statue Will Remain Standing. (Austin, Penn: loans, estate, rated)
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I am getting so sick of the statements such as above that count all of us PSU Alumni into one giant evil group.
First, I never cared about football up there, never went to a game, and never really wore blue and white. Now I am tainted as a person from a bad school, with a bad degree, linked to the worst scandal in sports history, and need ethics and morality lessons.
This is about the football team up there, not all hundreds of thousands of PSU Alumni, professors, and researchers that had nothing to do with this. Like 99.9% of the PSU family. Now in terms of changing culture, yes I am with you. But what school doesn't have a extreme lame football culture; Ohio State, Nebraska, Perdue, and ESPECIALLY COLLEGES IN TEXAS. Name any school besides a small private school and you will see that same thing that you found at PSU that would basket a scandal like this. I don't agree that this has to change. I never was up there for this lame football culture. I was up there to learn engineering and partying. Most big schools have put their football teams way above and beyond since they make money for most large state schools.
Don't get me started with people talking about diminishing my degree, and getting hired with a PSU degree. Most of these idiots spouting this garbage couldn't even make it through a PSU engineering curriculum to start. Then they dare to belittle a degree I worked hard for because of a scandal that came from my school. The academics are completely separate from the sports scandal.
I would hope people don't associate you with Paterno or Sandusky just because you attended and graduated from the school they taught at. You have nothing to do with either man if you weren't one of the enablers.
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Originally Posted by nimchimpsky
I would hope people don't associate you with Paterno or Sandusky just because you attended and graduated from the school they taught at. You have nothing to do with either man if you weren't one of the enablers.
You need to read through all the threads, that's exactly what's happening.
This is rich, someone from Texas talking about cultish football behavior at a PA college.
You hit Godwin's Law, also.
I don't speak for other schools, but there's no way the U of Texas would harbor a known pedophile and defend those who enabled him.
Yes, the Longhorns have rabid fans, but we do not foster the atmosphere that would lead to such a disgraceful lack of ethics & morals.
And NOWHERE have I ever said that all PSU-connected people are cultish, but the cult does exist for many of them....and the guilty four along with your Board of Trustees is kowtowing to that ilk.
Godwin's Law refers to not comparing ordinary actors in an issue/argument to Hitler, but the 4 men, including Paterno, who enabled Sandusky are indeed evil. So Godwin's Law doesn't apply here.
It's a shame Paterno isn't even alive to defend his name -
There were a great many that knew exactly what was going on, and they alllllllllllllllllll chose to do nothing in support of their positions as well as the schools reputation ... Don't forget, Mike McQueary saw Sandusky raping a boy in the shower, and he could have stopped Sandusky, but he chose to slam a locker while Sandusky was in the middle of the act, and then walk out and go home to cry to his father ...
The whole story is heartbreaking ... Sandusky's wife stood by his side through the entire trial, and she claims she had no clue ... what did she think was going on in her basement when those boys were sleeping over, and crying .... ????? She is just as guilty as her husband !
And if you people continue to deify him, that will cost PSU tens of millions. Plus there will be many who will not consider going to school there.
But it's interesting to note that you think $4 million in donations to the library (based on a dishonest, cowardly man's coverup) were more than worth the rape of at least dozen children and the loss of national respect for that school.
But hey, if it works for you to continue to believe aas you do, don't let the truth ruin your fantasy.
Oh please. I'm deifying anyone, certainly not Paterno! I'm calling you out on your hypocrisy (which you continue to display).
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. A statue is strictly a symbol, usually meant to commemorate something or someone worthy of honor. Why is it necessary to have a statue to Paterno any more? And what in the world does the statue have to do with the library, for example - are you saying that a university can't name a library after a person unless you also erect a statue? Sounds like a lot of schools would be closing their libraries.
Removing the statue and Paterno's name would be a largely symbolic move, but one that would show that the university is divorcing itself from the culture that created the opportunity for Sandusky to victimize children. To me, that seems like a more worthwhile gesture than leaving up an homage to Paterno, knowing now what the man helped perpetuate.
No, I'm saying it's hypocritical to call for the removal of a statue, yet allow a library, that was almost completely funded by Paterno, to continue to stand.
I don't speak for other schools, but there's no way the U of Texas would harbor a known pedophile and defend those who enabled him.
Yes, the Longhorns have rabid fans, but we do not foster the atmosphere that would lead to such a disgraceful lack of ethics & morals.
And NOWHERE have I ever said that all PSU-connected people are cultish, but the cult does exist for many of them....and the guilty four along with your Board of Trustees is kowtowing to that ilk.
Godwin's Law refers to not comparing ordinary actors in an issue/argument to Hitler, but the 4 men, including Paterno, who enabled Sandusky are indeed evil. So Godwin's Law doesn't apply here.
Be careful on that pedestal, friend. It's a long, hard fall from it.
If they're going to remove the statue, they should tear down, and donate everything in that library ... Everything is about reputation - you really think they care about those boys ?? Never forget, in the beginning, they were labeled, "Troubled kids" .... Sickening. No amount of money will make up for the emotional scars and damage those kids endured, but I hope to God, they are compensated with MILLIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!! If some old woman being bullied on a bus by kids can get $654,000, then boys being raped by an Assistant Coach at Penn should get 5x that.
Every single person that knew and did nothing should be fired. And, may his wife live with forever guilt for not doing more. I'm confident she knew. Confident. I wonder how how it felt knowing your own husband liked little boys more than his own wife. That sick twisted demented monster of a man.
I tend to wonder today if everyone that knew is sitting back and carrying all that guilt on their shoulder, and wishing they didn't sell their souls to the devil for the sake of the University. I hope none of us here are ever remotely close to a situation as that ....
No, I'm saying it's hypocritical to call for the removal of a statue, yet allow a library, that was almost completely funded by Paterno, to continue to stand.
Who said tear down the library?
Just take his name off it. Name it after Victim #1-10. And stock it up with plenty of materials on psychology & sociology concerning ethics & morality.
His $4 million donation (ill-gotten money) doesn't balance out what he allowed to go on at PSU for over a decade.
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