Penn State Plans To Take Down The Paterno Statue This Weekend (homes, transfer)
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Taking the statue down is fine, but they took the players down, and $60,000 fine????? Who pays that fine, being it is a STATE COLLEGE
And why are they taking away the football program? Why should the kids suffer? This is so totally getting way out of hand?
Why not seek out the board members who Paterno reported this to and slap they're hands? But to punish the kids by not allowing them to play football, that is so absurd?
1. they aren't taking the players down. the players are free to go to any other college and be eligible immediately.
2. they aren't taking away the football program.
3. the board members who paterno reported this to? that never happend. he talked to the AD and president about it, and ordered them not to do anything about it.
im trying to be nice here, so i'll just say..that other than being 100% wrong on every word you typed, great post!
1. they aren't taking the players down. the players are free to go to any other college and be eligible immediately.
2. they aren't taking away the football program.
3. the board members who paterno reported this to? that never happend. he talked to the AD and president about it, and ordered them not to do anything about it.
im trying to be nice here, so i'll just say..that other than being 100% wrong on every word you typed, great post!
I heard on the radio today, they took the players down behind the statue, is that true. And you don't have to be nice, I can understand your frustration...apparently there were football players behind the Paterno statue, and the radio said they took them down as well? And I got a breaking news this morning that said, they were being fined?
You didn't comment on that.
I heard on the radio today, they took the players down behind the statue, is that true. And you don't have to be nice, I can understand your frustration...apparently there were football players behind the Paterno statue, and the radio said they took them down as well? And I got a breaking news this morning that said, they were being fined?
You didn't comment on that.
Don't bother arguing with him. He's just a bitter Pitt fan who's probably wanted to see JoePa taken down for years.
That's the problem in these debates- they're infested with superfans from other schools (who, of course, don't identify themselves as such) so it's hard to tell who is sincere and who is just gloating because they always root against Penn State.
Don't bother arguing with him. He's just a bitter Pitt fan who's probably wanted to see JoePa taken down for years.
That's the problem in these debates- they're infested with superfans from other schools (who, of course, don't identify themselves as such) so it's hard to tell who is sincere and who is just gloating because they always root against Penn State.
I am a Penn State alum who has attended dozens of games at Beaver Stadium. I fully support the NCAA's corrective and punitive measures.
Big Ten conference bars Penn State from post-season revenue share
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The conference has also banned Penn State from appearing in the Big Ten championship game for four years and will be donating Penn State's Big Ten share of bowl revenue to a fund for the protection of children.
Penn State's share for four years is $13 million, which brings the grand total thus far to $73 million in fines.
i hate to burst your 'witchunter' bubble. but its not just 1 guy from texas and a couple PA posters.
its everybody across the nation. Michigan and Wisconsin fans are praying for the death panalty. OSU and Iowa are hoping PSU gets booted from the b10, and discussing who they want as replacements. SEC fans to a man, hate PSU. Texas fans ..well they showed up at PSU's bowl game in a pedo-bear costume.
Way to squander all that moral authority then. Instead of praying for Jerry Sandusky's victims, they're praying for vengeance. Oh, I forgot; only Penn State fans need to pray for the victims.
And may you cease to be seen on all Penn State-related topics if the NCAA gives you what you want. At this point I don't even care what happens to the football program anymore; all I know is that you should no longer be such a squeaky wheel if the NCAA gives you the grease. Same with Mr Yuk and that guy from Texas who posts here all the time even though he's neither planning to move here nor, to my knowledge, affiliated with the natural gas industry.
i hate to burst your 'witchunter' bubble. but its not just 1 guy from texas and a couple PA posters.
its everybody across the nation. Michigan and Wisconsin fans are praying for the death panalty. OSU and Iowa are hoping PSU gets booted from the b10, and discussing who they want as replacements. SEC fans to a man, hate PSU. Texas fans ..well they showed up at PSU's bowl game in a pedo-bear costume.
All of which just shows to show how petty, vicious, and driven by ulterior motives the lynch mob has been from the first salvo.
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Originally Posted by Evergrey
Hopefully Penn State has the courage to complete the Paterno Erasure Process.
So apparently, the "Sandusky scandal", which was quickly expanded into "the Penn State scandal" by the Spin Doctors, is now to be morphed into "the Paterno scandal" by a hard core of hot-heads who are so much in need of someone to kick that they will stop at nothing.
I am as hurt by what befell my alma mater as anyone else; but the events of this wekend have provided depressing proof that the pointing, grunting fool in the front row seat at any major university is so obsessed with the superficial that ethical behavior is the first casualty.
Some of the most contemptible of the dark figures in this mess -- the administrators and pitchmen who led a once-admirable program away from its founding principles, have seen very little light thrown upon the dark corners in which they're still hiding. The same holds for a Board of Trustees which allowed political and ideological in-fighting to overshadow the real threats beneath the hype.
At this point, Paterno stands as guilty (in the Court of Public Opinion -- the only one that counts) of failure to recognize and follow up on very heinous subordinate behavior, but the circumstances under which that action -- or lack of it -- took place remain unlear, depending upon who's telling the story. And the relatively small amount of empirical evidence point as much tothe Palace Guard as to the potentate himself.
Ths entire mess is a tragedy, but the ugliest actions since the beginning of the scandal itself -- the apparent attempt to "throw a dead man under the bus" seem about to come further into the light of public scrutiny.
Some of us are taking notes as to who is cheering the loudest.
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I am as hurt by what befell my alma mater as anyone else; but the events of this wekend have provided depressing proof that the pointing, grunting fool in the front row seat at any major university is so obsessed with the superficial that ethical behavior is the first casualty.
Some of the most contemptible of the dark figures in this mess -- the administrators and pitchmen who led a once-admirable program away from its founding principles, have seen very little light thrown upon the dark corners in which they're still hiding. The same holds for a Board of Trustees which allowed political and ideological in-fighting to overshadow the real threats beneath the hype.
At this point, Paterno stands as guilty (in the Court of Public Opinion -- the only one that counts) of failure to recognize and follow up on very heinous subordinate behavior, but the circumstances under which that action -- or lack of it -- took place remain unlear, depending upon who's telling the story. And the relatively small amount of empirical evidence point as much tothe Palace Guard as to the potentate himself.
Ths entire mess is a tragedy, but the ugliest actions since the beginning of the scandal itself -- the apparent attempt to "throw a dead man under the bus" seem about to come further into the light of public scrutiny.
Some of us are taking notes as to who is cheering the loudest.
Very good post. I feel exactly the same way.
I have friends who are mandated reporters. They reported suspected abuse. Some cases were followed up on, others were not. Are my friends "just as guilty" because their reports were not followed up on?
I'm sad that the statue is gone. It was very sad to see them take it away. But it's just bronze.
Nothing can erase Joe Paterno from history.
The coming months will possibly reveal more about what exactly Joe Paterno knew, I guess. I still can't believe that he would purposely cover up known child rape within his institution. I can't believe that he actually knew as much as the Freeh report and the emails by men under trial for perjury make it seem that he knew.
That's why I said I wonder if I'd have the courage ... with the very limited knowledge that Joe Paterno likely had ... to do more than he had done. I don't think he knew for sure what was happening, and he left it up to the people who's jobs it is to deal with that sort of thing to deal with it.
If Paterno knew so much, why didn't the police prosecute in 1998 ?
And in 2002, perhaps he left it up to administrators to deal with a report of some action that's exact nature wasn't known. Paterno himself didn't witness anything in that situation.
I don't know, but as I said, I don't think the case to vilify Joe Paterno is anywhere near as clear as some seem to think it is.
Should he have done more ? Yes, he should have. And he admitted so.
But I still like him. And I don't think he's the villain that some make him out to be.
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