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Old 12-07-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Montco PA
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what does that map indicate, exactly? Tax burden doesn't make too much sense because then why would New Jersey be in the lower third?
I am fairly certain this is total gas taxes (Fed and state) in each state, given that this thread is about PA's gas prices and taxes.

NJ has one of the lowest state gas taxes in the nation.
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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what does that map indicate, exactly? Tax burden doesn't make too much sense because then why would New Jersey be in the lower third?
It's the combined federal and state tax on a gallon of gas. When you buy a gallon of gas there is 60 cents tax on it included in the price. The federal tax is about 18 cents and has been since the early 90's. The states set their own tax so that's why you have such differences. This is where the primary funding for road construction and maintenance comes from.
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:45 PM
 
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NJ has one of the lowest state gas taxes in the nation.
True but the rest of them are through the roof and you bet they are shifting funds from the general fund(e.g income tax revenue) to make up the difference.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Montco PA
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True but the rest of them are through the roof and you bet they are shifting funds from the general fund(e.g income tax revenue) to make up the difference.
I'm surprised that there isn't more pressure in NJ to raise their gas tax since now they are literally surrounded by states with high gas taxes.

The fact that states are transferring $ from other funds makes it pretty obvious that there are more infrastructure needs in this country than some would care to admit.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:40 PM
 
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In northern PA it is still in the $2.90s. I hope it gets down to $2 so it is the same as natural gas(we have a decent amount of natural gas stations in my county), just to see if it goes down or if everyone who spent a bunch on a NG car/conversion gets screwed.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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It might be ... if you'd bothered to post what exactly this map is comparing.
This map tells you not to wait for gas prices in PA to come down much more. There are 60 cents of taxes to make sure of that. The lowest around here is the Wawa in Audobon for $2.75. 25 cents more and I’d be happy.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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Hey you all, get ready for the next installment of Corbett's gas tax increase of 9.5¢ on Jan. 1. I hope you rich Philly suburbanites who ride SEPTA into work and buy your gas in Delaware or New Jersey are happy.
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Old 12-08-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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The fact that states are transferring $ from other funds makes it pretty obvious that there are more infrastructure needs in this country than some would care to admit.
This stuff is hard to pin down. Nationally about 40% of the 18 cent gas tax goes to things other than roads like mas transit. Here in PA there is percentage going to mass transit but I'm not sure how much. Half the tolls on the Turnpike are given to PennDOT which is really ridiculous because it's like being charged triple. You have the toll, you have the toll going to PennDOT and the gas tax on top of that.

What percentage of the state fuel tax is being siphoned off to mass transit I'm not sure. I'm also not sure if there is any money coming from other resources going back to roads other than the Turnpike.
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Old 12-08-2014, 11:35 AM
 
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In northern PA it is still in the $2.90s. I hope it gets down to $2 so it is the same as natural gas(we have a decent amount of natural gas stations in my county), just to see if it goes down or if everyone who spent a bunch on a NG car/conversion gets screwed.
These low gas prices are only temporary, OPEC is trying to put pressure on the domestic producers here and put them out of business.
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Montco PA
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Hey you all, get ready for the next installment of Corbett's gas tax increase of 9.5¢ on Jan. 1. I hope you rich Philly suburbanites who ride SEPTA into work and buy your gas in Delaware or New Jersey are happy.
I posted something on another thread about what counties generate which gas taxes in PA. I will let you look for it - which I'm sure you won't. Regardless, if SE PA generates 30% of the $2.5 billion that this tax is expected to generate, that's $750M. SEPTA's funding increased by about $300m. I don't have the projections - not sure anyone does - but if SE PA gets less than $400m then once again we are subsidizing the rest of the state.

Instead of spewing anti-urban crap, do some research first. Remember where your bread is buttered (to quote Corbett).
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