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Old 03-22-2017, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Philly's late to the party, true, but it is turning a corner:

Attracting & retaining talent? Young professionals say 'next job could be in Greater Philadelphia': Report | Philadelphia Business Journal

Since this article's behind a paywall, I'll pull out the core figure for you:

Quote:
About 93 percent of young professionals said they think their next job could be in Greater Philadelphia, according to results of a survey conducted by the Chamber of Commerce for Greater Philadelphia.

Of that figure, 67 percent said "yes," while only 7 percent said "no."

Safety, affordability and rent/home prices were the top factors that made the region appealing for the survey's targeted group of professionals, or those aged 25-39.
The only thing missing from this passage in Kenneth Hilario's story: What was the wording of the question to which 67 percent of the respondents said "yes" and only 7 percent said "no"?

Another stat further down in the article: 97 percent of the respondents said they would recommend the Philadelphia region as a place to live.

The main reasons respondents gave for leaving the region? "Affordability, schools and rent/home prices."

Two of those three would most likely have them leaving for a place like...Pittsburgh...that offers a lower cost of living and more reasonably priced housing. (And that in turn might help explain that migration statistic Blackbeauty212 posted well upthread. But it's equally important to note that, those things notwithstanding, the overwhelming majority of young professionals in this area like it and would like to stick around.)
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philadelphia - some cool projects outside of Center City
Revealed with today's CDR Submissions

6300 City Avenue - 5 floors - 68 luxury apartments & ground floor retail
This is the first project in what is a concerted effort between the City of Philadelphia, and communities in Montgomery County bordering City Avenue like Bala Cynwyd and Merion Station to make the area more walkable and build up the area with denser, transit oriented development. This project is in the Overbrook Farms neighborhoods of West Philadelphia.

PDF: http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...300CityAve.pdf

1413-27 Germantown Ave - two 6 floor buildings - 120 luxury apartments & ground floor light industrial space.
This is in the Olde Kensington neighborhood of North Philadelphia, which is a rapidly gentrifying neighborhood north of Northern Liberties, and West of Fishtown.

PDF: http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/pr...Submission.pdf

Other massive developments in Olde Kensington include:

1222 N. 2nd Street
Another Big Mixed-Use Project Planned in South Kensington | Naked Philly

Soko Lofts
Portfolio: Soko Lofts | BartonPartners — Architects · Planners in Philadelphia, PA

Liberty Square
Seriously Guys, It's Time For Liberty Square | Naked Philly

Techadelphia
http://philly.curbed.com/2016/1/29/1...et-development
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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Sorry, but it's not. Pittsburgh has a nice regional theater scene, but it's not a top national theater scene in the US like Philadelphia is.

Theater Guide - Theater Scene in America*| Arts America
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Vacation...ter-districts/
Top 10 US Cities for Live Theater
Pittsburgh gets every national Broadway play that comes through Philadelphia and with in the same season. Philadelphia holds no candle over the Burgh here. Sorry to bruise your ego!
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RightonWalnut View Post
Lol. You love graphs. You like to cherry pick the weirdest things to try to prove that Philadelphia is such a terrible place.

Metro Area Population
Dallas - Fort Worth: 7,102,796
Houston: 6,656,947
Washington DC: 6,097,684
Philadelphia: 6,069,875
Miami: 6,012,331
Atlanta: 5,710,795
Boston: 4,774,321
San Francisco: 4,656,132

GDP
Houston: $525B
Dallas: $504B
Washington DC: $471B
San Francisco: $411B
Philadelphia: $391B
Boston: $382B
Atlanta: $324B
Miami: $299B

Total Jobs
Dallas: 3,542,700
Washington DC: 3,257,000
Houston: 3,006,200
Philadelphia: 2,879,100
Boston: 2,707,100
Atlanta: 2,667,400
Miami: 2,568,900
San Francisco: 2,337,400

Median Household Income
Washington DC: $93,294
San Francisco: $88,518
Boston: $78,800
Philadelphia: $65,123
Dallas: $61,644
Houston: $61,465
Atlanta: $60,219
Miami: $50,441

Looks right there in the middle of the pack in every metric to me.
You metrics are for Philadelphia's complete MSA. Take out Wilmington, and NJ, which operate in self-sustained economies that don't depend on flows into and out of Philly.

Show me Philadelphia's metrics when just looking at the PA portion of the CSA, then show me how it stacks up to these other cities..... I bet the numbers show a stark difference.

LOL, Always got to dig a little deeper when you provide numbers RoW, there's always a caveat buried in there somewhere.

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Old 03-22-2017, 12:51 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212 View Post
You metrics are for Philadelphia's complete MSA. Take out Wilmington, and NJ, which operate in self-sustained economies that don't depend on flows into and out of Philly.

Show me Philadelphia's metrics when just looking at the PA portion of the CSA, then show me how it stacks up to these other cities..... I bet the numbers show a stark difference.

LOL, Always got to dig a little deeper when you provide numbers RoW, there's always a caveat buried in there somewhere.
Actually the majority of the output and economic power does come from the PA portion. Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, and Bucks Counties are the powerhouse counties of the region and the entire state, and that isn't changing anytime soon. SJ and Northern DE contribute on a lesser but still viable scale, and they are still just as connected to the metro as the PA burbs are, so they all should count.

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Old 03-22-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212 View Post
You metrics are for Philadelphia's complete MSA. Take out Wilmington, and NJ, which operate in self-sustained economies that don't depend on flows into and out of Philly.

Show me Philadelphia's metrics when just looking at the PA portion of the CSA, then show me how it stacks up to these other cities..... I bet the numbers show a stark difference.
Why would only the PA portion matter? The NJ and DE parts of the metro are closely tied to Philadelphia, with lots of commuters back and forth.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Why would only the PA portion matter? The NJ and DE parts of the metro are closely tied to Philadelphia, with lots of commuters back and forth.


Because BB likes to add and subtract when convenient in an attempt to make Pittsburgh look more powerful, when we all know that isn't the case.


Also funny how she didn't even acknowledge the Schuylkill Yards development, because it pains her to see such an amazing development taking off in Philadelphia.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212 View Post
You metrics are for Philadelphia's complete MSA. Take out Wilmington, and NJ, which operate in self-sustained economies that don't depend on flows into and out of Philly.

Show me Philadelphia's metrics when just looking at the PA portion of the CSA, then show me how it stacks up to these other cities..... I bet the numbers show a stark difference.

LOL, Always got to dig a little deeper when you provide numbers RoW, there's always a caveat buried in there somewhere.
I provided metropolitan statistics for every single area. Not just Philly, but every city are the metro numbers. Unfortunately, some things are just not broken down to individual counties, like GDP for instance. The point is, Philadelphia (and it's region), are 100% in the same league as those other cities (and their regions). Here is the breakdown of the Philadelphia Region for each statistic except GDP which is not divided up.

Median Household Income
Chester County, PA - $90,503
Montgomery County, PA - $83,254
Bucks County, PA - $80,575
Gloucester County, NJ - $77,565
Burlington County, NJ - $74,800
Delaware County, PA - $67,584
New Castle County, DE - $66,256
Camden County, NJ - $65,025
Salem County, NJ - $61,831
Philadelphia County, PA - $41,233

**All Median Household Income information is from:

Total Jobs
PA Side of the Metro (Philadelphia, Montgomery, Bucks, Delaware and Chester): 1,967,700 total jobs
Camden Metro Division (Camden, Burlington, Gloucester): 530,600 total jobs
Wilmington Metro Division (New Castle, Cecil, Salem): 362,300 total jobs

**PA Side has 1,967,700 jobs
**The rest of the metro has 892,900 jobs
**Over half of the jobs in the Metro area are in the 5 county PA side of the metro
**These numbers are slightly outdated as these are from August 2016, and Philadelphia Area added 50,000 jobs since then
https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atla...iladelphia.htm

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Old 03-22-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Pittsburgh gets every national Broadway play that comes through Philadelphia and with in the same season. Philadelphia holds no candle over the Burgh here. Sorry to bruise your ego!
Pittsburgh gets the big plays sure, but not all the smaller and unique plays which Philadelphia gets. The shows in Philadelphia will also likely run for a much longer period of time, where they may only run for 1 or 2 nights in Pittsburgh. Philadelphia also has a MUCH larger theater scene centered in Philadelphia than Pittsburgh has. Philadelphia's theater scene is infinitely better, and is in another tier altogether. Philadelphia is a top-10 national theater scene and would likely rank 5 or 6 out of every US city. Pittsburgh is a regional theater scene, and would likely rank 16 or 17 out of every major city.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Originally Posted by RightonWalnut View Post
Lol. You love graphs. You like to cherry pick the weirdest things to try to prove that Philadelphia is such a terrible place.

Metro Area Population
Dallas - Fort Worth: 7,102,796
Houston: 6,656,947
Washington DC: 6,097,684
Philadelphia: 6,069,875
Miami: 6,012,331
Atlanta: 5,710,795
Boston: 4,774,321
San Francisco: 4,656,132

GDP
Houston: $525B
Dallas: $504B
Washington DC: $471B
San Francisco: $411B
Philadelphia: $391B
Boston: $382B
Atlanta: $324B
Miami: $299B

Total Jobs
Dallas: 3,542,700
Washington DC: 3,257,000
Houston: 3,006,200
Philadelphia: 2,879,100
Boston: 2,707,100
Atlanta: 2,667,400
Miami: 2,568,900
San Francisco: 2,337,400

Median Household Income
Washington DC: $93,294
San Francisco: $88,518
Boston: $78,800
Philadelphia: $65,123
Dallas: $61,644
Houston: $61,465
Atlanta: $60,219
Miami: $50,441

Looks right there in the middle of the pack in every metric to me.
Here are the links to all of the information for all of these cities which Blackbeauty requested.

Metro Area Population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tistical_Areas

GDP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_areas_by_GDP

Total Jobs
**Chart is on the bottom**
https://www.bls.gov/regions/southwes...nt_houston.htm

Median Household Income
**Each Area is Searchable via the search function at the top of the page**

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