Is PA depressing? (York, Columbia, Clearfield: job, retire, moving)

[bolillo_loco]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

I find people like you and your friend amazing. You have a sense of entitlement to a high-paying job just because you graduated from college. NEWS FLASH: college degrees are dime-a-dozen anymore. You need more than a piece of paper to be handed a high-paying job.

You can't find a job at the drop of a hat, so you blame the area? Good riddance, we don't need people like you.

It seems the younger generation views the word WORK to be a four-letter word.

It was all those flag waving patriotic Americans that cried on September 11th, but buy foreign products that caused all the high paying jobs to leave. I can remember when high paying jobs were a dime a dozen to high school dropouts. Yes, life in America is so much better now... Even with a college education, you're still hard pressed to get a decent job. And where are all these decent jobs? In locations where the average home costs half a million or more...

[Marodi]

Originally Posted by bolillo_loco

It was all those flag waving patriotic Americans that cried on September 11th, but buy foreign products that caused all the high paying jobs to leave. I can remember when high paying jobs were a dime a dozen to high school dropouts. Yes, life in America is so much better now... Even with a college education, you're still hard pressed to get a decent job. And where are all these decent jobs? In locations where the average home costs half a million or more...

Depends on your major. If you go into art history, of course your gonna live in a cardboard box. If you choose something useful like engineering, law, medicine, you'll do a lot better.

[bolillo_loco]

Originally Posted by Marodi

Depends on your major. If you go into art history, of course your gonna live in a cardboard box. If you choose something useful like engineering, law, medicine, you'll do a lot better.

Yes I understand your point, but mine was that thirty - forty years ago nothing was out of reach for the working class high school drop out. A college education in specific fields isn't well within the reach of the average person.

[johnbowerspntg]

i lived in many places in my life 7 states and over 40 towns i was lucky enough to spend 3 yrs in pa 2 of them in conneaut lake man i loved going to the park and riding the blue streak then hanging out at the beach in the winter we would ice skate on the lake 1974 - 1976 it was and still is the best place i have ever lived

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by bolillo_loco

Yes I understand your point, but mine was that thirty - forty years ago nothing was out of reach for the working class high school drop out. A college education in specific fields isn't well within the reach of the average person.

I beg to differ. I graduated from HS 40 yrs ago. Even then, it was advantageous to have a HS education to work in the mills. In a few years, it all came crashing down in the steel industry. Anyone w/o an education was up s*** creek. A college education can be obtained by borrowing money, which most people think nothing of doing to buy a car.

[weezy18]

Come to clearfield county if you want to see depressing - this is the "black hole." Industries have been moving out of here since the late 70's - early 80's and haven't come back. You are lucky if you can a little above min. wage here. I'm glad we are selling our home and moving west.

[storm1976]

you should see warren..if it`s not raining it`s snowing. ever try getting a lawn mower through wet grass and mud?

[solancogirl]

Originally Posted by imright

Just wanna know what you think.

I think Pennsylvania is fantastic. Perfect no, but it is exactly where I want to be and I am happy to be here!

[solancogirl]

Originally Posted by Katiana

I beg to differ. I graduated from HS 40 yrs ago. Even then, it was advantageous to have a HS education to work in the mills. In a few years, it all came crashing down in the steel industry. Anyone w/o an education was up s*** creek. A college education can be obtained by borrowing money, which most people think nothing of doing to buy a car.

Pennsylvania State Colleges go back and forth between being the number 1 or number 2 most expensive state schools in the country to attend. PA has a brain drain period. Schools here are out of reach for the average family and we don't tax pensions (one of only 4 states who don't). So the majority of people coming into the state are retirees.

[toobusytoday]

solancogirl,
Where did you get that from, that the majority of people coming into the state are retirees? I understand not moving away from PA after they retire but I've never heard of PA as a destination spot for new retirees.

PSU is expensive, but the real state schools (West Chester, Kutztown, Mansfield, etc) are very affordable.