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Old 02-04-2022, 08:54 PM
 
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Such a different world back that. That quote is from 86 when there were races were when Republicans won statewide, at minimum Dems had Philadelphia, Greene and Fayette Counties. Then just 4 years later, Robert Casey Sr won 66/67 counties, losing Montgomery of all places. Even more recently, Rendell in 06 and Wolf in 2018 had roughly the same margin of victory, Rendell won twice as many counties. Maybe the areas haven't changed that much, but they certainly vote differently.
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Old 02-05-2022, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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“Naturally safe” is such an odd choice of words. Did these places get established in a “safe, natural” way? Are these “naturally safe” communities accepting of all people? Some of these “naturally safe” communities you reference are actually not safe or welcoming to outsiders.

if you want to be accepted in pa, head to rural PA. its the only place in the north east you will get 'southern hospitality'.


BUT, if you are 'woke' and enter these places with an idea to change everything, especially starting off calling them neanderthals, it might not be so friendly.


woke people apparently can never smell their own farts.


This is not political, but nowadays people just cannot accept kind, with insults.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:09 AM
 
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if you want to be accepted in pa, head to rural PA. its the only place in the north east you will get 'southern hospitality'.


BUT, if you are 'woke' and enter these places with an idea to change everything, especially starting off calling them neanderthals, it might not be so friendly.


woke people apparently can never smell their own farts.


This is not political, but nowadays people just cannot accept kind, with insults.
You told someone to stay away from Meadville, MEADVILLE, because its "too woke." I just want everyone to remember that, lol. You don't get to claim southern hospitality if you are triggered by flipping Meadville of all places.
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Old 02-05-2022, 09:11 AM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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You told someone to stay away from Meadville, MEADVILLE, because its "too woke." I just want everyone to remember that, lol. You don't get to claim southern hospitality if you are triggered by flipping Meadville of all places.
I guess to some people, Allegheny College may as well be Swarthmore?
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Old 02-05-2022, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Center City Philadelphia
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if you want to be accepted in pa, head to rural PA. its the only place in the north east you will get 'southern hospitality'.


BUT, if you are 'woke' and enter these places with an idea to change everything, especially starting off calling them neanderthals, it might not be so friendly.


woke people apparently can never smell their own farts.


This is not political, but nowadays people just cannot accept kind, with insults.
This is kind of funny to me. I don't find rural PA to be all that friendly, actually, unlike the South. I grew up in central PA. People are actually rather harsh and cold to outsiders - similar to the rest of the Northeast or New England. There is a strong loyalty - once you make a friend, they've got your back, less fakeness (compared to the South and West especially) - but you can find that in the big cities too.

Take holding doors for example. It's extremely common in Philly for people to hold doors. Like, if you *don't* hold the door for someone in center city, someone might even speak their mind to you! It's the opposite in Central PA, people rarely hold doors and don't seem to care about others. I get that the stereotype of people in Philly is rude and it's definitely "fast-paced" compared to the rest of PA. But my major observation about the common courtesy of holding doors was really shocking when I moved here a decade ago. I was surprised that people will walk up to you on the street and start a friendly conversation. That's much more rare in central PA.
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Old 02-05-2022, 02:24 PM
 
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I grew up in the south and ended up in south central PA later in life. Whoever posted of "southern hospitality" in this area must be from this area and blind to reality.

There was even an article in the Patriot-News some years ago expressing the concern that area churches were not welcoming to newcomers.

There is a totally different way of relating to people, making friends, and establishing a social circle here.
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Old 02-05-2022, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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You told someone to stay away from Meadville, MEADVILLE, because its "too woke." I just want everyone to remember that, lol. You don't get to claim southern hospitality if you are triggered by flipping Meadville of all places.

no, I said to the guy from out of nowhere missouri that of the 2 places, (when he wants ZERO issues because he does things the "learned" crowd gets vocal with), to goto one place over the other because the other place does suffer some effect from the liberal arts college. its still there to quote...


its not like he asked SS pitt vs renovo...where the words stay away might be used for one.


WE are allowed to tell the truth yanno.
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Old 02-05-2022, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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I was born, raised, and still reside in the heart of south central PA. Fortunately, I did spend some time in my late teens/early 20s elsewhere so I was able to gain a different perspective. Also, most of my relatives and many close friends live elsewhere so I’m keenly aware of how small town PA is. My roots are here and I still love my hometown, but that doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge it’s ugly side. Generally speaking, YES, most of small town PA is very safe. By the same token, YES, most of small town PA is very racist, xenophobic, and not welcoming to outsiders. I have a lifetime of experiences to support my belief. Making a blanket statement like everyone is welcome (unless you’re woke) is incredibly naive.

I cringe at the word woke. Recognizing these problems does not make one woke.

You said your comments aren’t political, but they clearly are. I could just as easily respond to your woke comment by saying racist people can’t smell theirs bc they always claim to have “no racial bone” in their body.

Read this article for a little insight on how “welcoming” small PA towns are to outsiders:

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs...004-story.html

This happened in 1991. Not 1851, 1891, or 1951, but 1991.
There’s been some progress since then, but that same type of mentality is still pervasive throughout rural/small town PA.

Wasn’t my intention to inject race into the post. I just found the spirit of the post a bit peculiar and wanted to clarify the meaning of “naturally safe” and who it’s naturally safe for.
I understand that, but again, a motorcycle gang that set up a chapter across the state line from its founding city starting something - ***31 years ago**..heckova thing (the same bike gang now runs the most dangerous city in america (according to fbi) and its not looked on the same.
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Old 02-05-2022, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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This is kind of funny to me. I don't find rural PA to be all that friendly, actually, unlike the South. I grew up in central PA. People are actually rather harsh and cold to outsiders - similar to the rest of the Northeast or New England. There is a strong loyalty - once you make a friend, they've got your back, less fakeness (compared to the South and West especially) - but you can find that in the big cities too.

Take holding doors for example. It's extremely common in Philly for people to hold doors. Like, if you *don't* hold the door for someone in center city, someone might even speak their mind to you! It's the opposite in Central PA, people rarely hold doors and don't seem to care about others. I get that the stereotype of people in Philly is rude and it's definitely "fast-paced" compared to the rest of PA. But my major observation about the common courtesy of holding doors was really shocking when I moved here a decade ago. I was surprised that people will walk up to you on the street and start a friendly conversation. That's much more rare in central PA.

I still stand on my position, having just visited half a dozen small town pa today...but I would point out, in the city you state is so friendly, you killed more last weekend than central pa this century. thats gotta mean something... 'friendly' must be contextual ;-)
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Old 02-05-2022, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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I was born, raised, and still reside in the heart of south central PA.

btw - since you live in bedford....freaking bedford is a hotspot of intolerance? I call bs.
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