IUP Campus Smoke-free (dorms, school, universities)

[pinetar10]

How does everybody feel about the entire IUP campus now being smoke-free? This means inside and outside the buildings nobody is allowed to smoke. I do not smoke and despise smoking, but i think this is pretty outragious to ban smoking on an entire campus. So now students who live in dorms that smoke must walk off campus, which can be over a mile away to smoke.

[harleyrider1978]

you will find communism everywhere you find smoking bans................so much for freedom

[harleyrider1978]

first,the epa study acs uses was thrown out as junk science by a federal judge.Second the surgeon general was asked htru court to show the names of those deaths attributable to shs..........SG came back and said it was a computer generated number.............no deaths have ever been proven to be shs because it harms nobody..........govmnt propaganda depts in lock step with ACS and ALA and big pharma........the worse thing that happens from shs is it may aggravate a persons own bronchitis.........thats about it.............and anything can do that.now on with the good stuff


For those of you new to the smoking ban business.Here are a few things you should know.
Big pharma is behind the bans with robert wood johnson foundation who hired out the american cancer society and the american lung association to do the honors of shaking down the legislators.
What does big pharma and smokefree kids get from the state besides your rights........the states set up a 200-300 million dollar program for cessation drugs which profit big pharma.....smokefree kids gets a percentage of the cig tax to fund their propaganda dept....the state health dept gets its own police force and police powers...........all for a lie..yes a lie.
Second hand smoke is the moral crusaders sword in this round of prohibition.But guess what...OSHA
SAYS SECOND HAND SMOKE HARMS NO ONE.....YOU GET THAT..THE whole shs scam is made up science to take away your rights in a public place and to take away the property/business owners rights.....
this has been happeneing everywhere bans have been implemented.........the worse is that next year ACS and ALA will be back with smoke free kids to get more taxes and to do away with any excemptions you got this TIME AROUND....They will try and get smoking in cars with kids outlawed and you the parent made to be an unfit parent if you get busted for it.............heres some more of how the anti-smoking lobby operates.......
Although OSHA has no regulation that addresses tobacco smoke as a whole, 29 CFR 1910.1000 Air contaminants, limits employee exposure to several of the main chemical components found in tobacco smoke. In normal situations, exposures would not exceed these permissible exposure limits (PELs), and, as a matter of prosecutorial discretion, OSHA will not apply the General Duty Clause to ETS.
After OSHA came out with this policy ASH one of the biggest anti-smoking lobby’s filed suit against OSHA. They will not tell you this but they dropped the suit because the courts will not touch a case unless the risk ratios are higher then 2 which the vast majority of the studies don’t even come close. Here are their words not mine;
“Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) has agreed to dismiss its law suit against the Occupational Safety and Health Administration [OSHA] to avoid serious harm to the nonsmokers’ rights movement from an adverse action OSHA had threatened to take if forced by the law suit to do so.”

[dugdogmaster]

Un-friggin-believable! This is infringing on their individual rights. I don't see how the state run campuses can get away with this. It's not just IUP, it's every single state run school.

[toobusytoday]

That's all PA State school campuses, not PSU. I feel badly that the smokers didn't get much notice but I'm sure the non-smokers don't mind walking outside without the smoky haze.
Pa. State Universities: No Smoking Outside, 14 Universities Snuff Out All Smoking, Sparking Statewide Protests - CBS News

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by pinetar10

How does everybody feel about the entire IUP campus now being smoke-free? This means inside and outside the buildings nobody is allowed to smoke. I do not smoke and despise smoking, but i think this is pretty outragious to ban smoking on an entire campus. So now students who live in dorms that smoke must walk off campus, which can be over a mile away to smoke.

It's good! Maybe they will smoke less! Maybe some will even quit!

[dugdogmaster]

Originally Posted by Katiana

It's good! Maybe they will smoke less! Maybe some will even quit!

I'm sorry, but give me a break! This is outlandish, completely and utterly outlandish! How can you say that, seriously? It is OUTDOORS. And frankly, they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

[Katiana]

Anything that makes smoking more difficult for people to smoke is good, IMO. Cigarette butts are a littler problem.

[dugdogmaster]

Originally Posted by Katiana

Anything that makes smoking more difficult for people to smoke is good, IMO. Cigarette butts are a littler problem.

As I light up Yoi! Double Yoi! What else would you like to impose upon the American people? Haha

[go phillies]

Originally Posted by harleyrider1978

smokefree kids gets a percentage of the cig tax to fund their propaganda dept....

Yes, because "smoke-free kids" is a bad thing, right? You seriously need your head examined if you think that an organization that devotes itself to keeping kids from smoking is just "propaganda."

I suppose you think that kids smoking is OK?