What Presidential Candidate Are You Supporting at the Polls in November? (Chester: residency, counties)

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

Hannity and O'Reilly would be considered Op-Ed writers if they were in the print media. They don't report "news" they offer opinion and opinion pieces. On Hannity's show at least there is an opposing voice in Alan Colmes. An MSNBC correlate would be Keith Olberman, offers opinion with very little news. Living where I do there is little reason to watch national network news since the DC stations cover national issues along with local. As an aside, it always confounds me when people use Hannity, O'Reilly (or Limbaugh) as examples to "prove" a bias on Fox ( or Limbaugh's network) when they openly and frequently proclaim that they are voicing editorial type opinion.

That's not the point.

There's nothing wrong with MSM sources having partisans on their network. CNN does it, MSNBC does it, etc. The issue with FOX, however, is that their "unbiased" claim is explicit in their misleading "Fair and Balanced" motto. They portray these conservative pundits (i.e., Hannity, O'Reilly, Scarborough, Coulter, Rove, etc.) as though they're giving candidates from both parties a fair shake, when that couldn't be further from the truth. In the end, the entire network just comes off as a cheerleading squad for the GOP.

[wanneroo]

Originally Posted by Duderino

That's not the point.

There's nothing wrong with MSM sources having partisans on their network. CNN does it, MSNBC does it, etc. The issue with FOX, however, is that their "unbiased" claim is explicit in their misleading "Fair and Balanced" motto. They portray these conservative pundits (i.e., Hannity, O'Reilly, Scarborough, Coulter, Rove, etc.) as though they're giving candidates from both parties a fair shake, when that couldn't be further from the truth. In the end, the entire network just comes off as a cheerleading squad for the GOP.

O'Reilly I would say is a centrist. Scarborough is on PMSNBC. Coulter isn't on FOX much and Rove is because he is a genius with what he does.

FOX always have people from two sides in just about everything they do. Independent media watchdogs agree.

[North Beach Person]

Duderino you don't get it. Pundits aren't supposed to be unbiased, that's not what pays the bills.

[toobusytoday]

Just for fun, how about if we try to talk only about the candidate we support and why we think he is the best person to be President. AND, how about if we also assume all posters are fairly intelligent and not talk trash about them either. Emotions are running high, but we will all probably be back on board another day and it would be nice to get through this election without unneccessary roughness. Any takers?

[toobusytoday]

I was trying to think of something very eloquent to say about Senator Obama about why I think he's the best candidate, but I'm sure I won't do nearly as good a job as other people. I'll give it a shot though.

I like Obama's wide lens on the world. His environmental policies are not just for our generation, they are for all the coming generations. If any of you remember (or read) what it was like during the Kennedy years when we were trying to put a man on the moon, that hard work and thinking outside of the box, and support from the government is what is going to make us energy independent without harming our environment. Instead of giving tax breaks to the oil companies we can give those incentives to companies to provide alternate energy.

I love Obama's inclusiveness. Because of his background, he realizes that Americans are not just one thing - we're not just white Americans, or black Americans, Asian or hispanic, rich or poor, we're simply citizens of the United States of America and we need to work together to make this country the best country it can be. Because he has traveled extensively and lived in different parts of the world, he has a much broader world view.

I am very appreciative of Obama's intelligence. Obama got his undergraduate degree from Columbia University and his law degree from Harvard where he was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. He practiced law and taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. It will be so nice to have a president who has the intellectual capability to understand all of our problems and solve them. He will surround himself with people that will challenge him and help him.

Finally, I like his compassion and thoughtfulness. Obama will be a President who thinks things through fully and then act accordingly. I trust him. That's the bottom line, both candidates can promise us the world and say what they think we want to hear but in the end it has to come down to who you trust and Senator Obama is that man.

Here are some links I found the most interesting:
Make-Believe Maverick : Rolling Stone
Obama as we knew him... man and boy | World news | The Observer

And the best polling site IMHO - FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right

[Stephanie P]

Originally Posted by toobusytoday

I was trying to think of something very eloquent to say about Senator Obama about why I think he's the best candidate, but I'm sure I won't do nearly as good a job as other people. I'll give it a shot though.

I like Obama's wide lens on the world. His environmental policies are not just for our generation, they are for all the coming generations. If any of you remember (or read) what it was like during the Kennedy years when we were trying to put a man on the moon, that hard work and thinking outside of the box, and support from the government is what is going to make us energy independent without harming our environment. Instead of giving tax breaks to the oil companies we can give those incentives to companies to provide alternate energy.

I love Obama's inclusiveness. Because of his background, he realizes that Americans are not just one thing - we're not just white Americans, or black Americans, Asian or hispanic, rich or poor, we're simply citizens of the United States of America and we need to work together to make this country the best country it can be. Because he has traveled extensively and lived in different parts of the world, he has a much broader world view.

I am very appreciative of Obama's intelligence. Obama got his undergraduate degree from Columbia University and his law degree from Harvard where he was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. He practiced law and taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. It will be so nice to have a president who has the intellectual capability to understand all of our problems and solve them. He will surround himself with people that will challenge him and help him.

Finally, I like his compassion and thoughtfulness. Obama will be a President who thinks things through fully and then act accordingly. I trust him. That's the bottom line, both candidates can promise us the world and say what they think we want to hear but in the end it has to come down to who you trust and Senator Obama is that man.

Here are some links I found the most interesting:
Make-Believe Maverick : Rolling Stone
Obama as we knew him... man and boy | World news | The Observer

And the best polling site IMHO - FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right

Well said. Obama is very intelligent, and that is what we need now. Not someone who barely graduated and even worse, agrees with George.

[go phillies]

I'm taking a chance and voting for Obama. Just for the reason that we cannot afford 4 more years of a neocon presidency....we see now where 8 years of Bush has gotten us....

[creepsinc]

Originally Posted by toobusytoday

I was trying to think of something very eloquent to say about Senator Obama about why I think he's the best candidate, but I'm sure I won't do nearly as good a job as other people. I'll give it a shot though.

I like Obama's wide lens on the world. His environmental policies are not just for our generation, they are for all the coming generations. If any of you remember (or read) what it was like during the Kennedy years when we were trying to put a man on the moon, that hard work and thinking outside of the box, and support from the government is what is going to make us energy independent without harming our environment. Instead of giving tax breaks to the oil companies we can give those incentives to companies to provide alternate energy.

I love Obama's inclusiveness. Because of his background, he realizes that Americans are not just one thing - we're not just white Americans, or black Americans, Asian or hispanic, rich or poor, we're simply citizens of the United States of America and we need to work together to make this country the best country it can be. Because he has traveled extensively and lived in different parts of the world, he has a much broader world view.

I am very appreciative of Obama's intelligence. Obama got his undergraduate degree from Columbia University and his law degree from Harvard where he was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. He practiced law and taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. It will be so nice to have a president who has the intellectual capability to understand all of our problems and solve them. He will surround himself with people that will challenge him and help him.

Finally, I like his compassion and thoughtfulness. Obama will be a President who thinks things through fully and then act accordingly. I trust him. That's the bottom line, both candidates can promise us the world and say what they think we want to hear but in the end it has to come down to who you trust and Senator Obama is that man.

Here are some links I found the most interesting:
Make-Believe Maverick : Rolling Stone
Obama as we knew him... man and boy | World news | The Observer

And the best polling site IMHO - FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right

That was plenty eloquent. I think those qualities worth paying for, if we get nothing else. Healthcare will be a nice bonus. And I get to keep my great policy I already have through my job. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he's not bamboozling us...I'm skeptical of the whole messiah bit, which isn't just a figment of the right's imagination, like most things.

On the other hand, I'd MUCH rather have 4 or 8 (or even 16) more years of Bush than have that woman anywhere near the nukular weapons.

I was the first in my district to vote this morning. Observatory Hill, Pittsburgh is definitely Obama country.

On the bright side, if he loses, my world isn't necessarily turned upside down, as long as the old bastard stays alive. If he wins, the schadenfreude is priceless.

[creepsinc]

Some quotes from Lincoln, the Original Republican. I wonder who he'd vote for?


Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure.

Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world.

I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.


I do not think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

...and my personal favorite, as he spews "socialistic" nonsense:

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by go phillies

I'm taking a chance and voting for Obama. Just for the reason that we cannot afford 4 more years of a neocon presidency....we see now where 8 years of Bush has gotten us....

I'm honestly not a die-hard Obama supporter either, but I had to vote for him over the opposition. Sen. McCain would continue President Bush's failed economic policies, and if he should happen to succumb in office his replacement would be the female version of Pat Robertson!