People who moved to PA and hate it (Philadelphia, Pittsburgh: lease, salary)

[maestro]

the suburbs of Philly gets my vote for you. Yes, it can be expensive depending on how close to the city you live, but you can get a nice house in an active community (not all family-driven chains and whatnot) and be within 45-60 minute train ride to Center City Philly.

The mountains aren't too far away, the beach isn't terribly far away, and most of all the people aren't as hard-nosed as people from other East Coast cities (in my experience thus far).

With that said, I have heard good things about Harrisburg's continued re-birth. It's too remote for my taste, but it may be worth checking out.

[bethany12]

Don't listen to the hype - Pittsburgh is a rust belt city. If you are under 25 and like a bar crawl (Southside) or the Steelers/Pens (all other teams are hated), then Pittsburgh is the place for you. Otherwise there is only the zoo, a couple museums, and italian restaurants to keep you occupied. The local government and people are still living in the 70s, so corruption, kickbacks, and the mindless union mentality rules. It goes further than racism here, there is open discrimination between all ethnicities.
The newest fad is to move over an hour away and put up with the commute. I am hopping on that bandwagon.

[donsabi]

likesurfin,
Check out the SEPTA rail map, (available online), to get an idea of surrounding towns. In most cases it is much easier to jump on a train than to drive to Philly. Take a look at Montgomery county. Lots of nice small towns with easy access to Philly.

[Platano92]

i used to live in in Reading,PA (about 33 miles away from allentown and lancaster) for 4-5 years. I like it over there but my mom HATES it. She find it depressing ,boring, ghetto,and "too much poverty" so she left to Virginia. I wanted to stay in PA with my grandparents but my mom wont let me bcuz the school over there (Reading High) is a very very bad school and it's kinda true. I was very sad that i had to leave my friends and my wonderul State once again . The only city my mom find it intresting is PA Philidelphia and that all. But i really like PA i want to go back 2 school and graduate over there.

[Cowgirl15]

I was born and raised in PA...I absolutely hate it here. Thankfully, I will be moving out to Wyoming at the end of this year.

I do not like the massive numbers of people. I do not like that everything is being built up. People are always in a rush...the light turns green and you don't move the horns are blaring. People are never happy, they have to drive 10 minutes to get somewhere and they consider that to be too long of a drive. As far as scenery, I don't care for metropolitan areas so that does nothing for me. All the trees and mountains don't appeal to me either...I'd rather be able to see for miles on end with nothing but open land. I do not like the humidity. In the summer the gnats are everywhere and you of course are sweating because of the humidity. In the winter it makes it colder, the snow is wet and heavy too. 32 degrees here in PA feels a heck of a lot colder than 32 degrees in Wyoming.

I prefer a slower way of life with less people, fewer bugs, wide open spaces, and less humidity, hence why I'm moving to Wyoming. For you and many others PA is great, it just doesn't suit me.

[pman]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl15

I was born and raised in PA...I absolutely hate it here. Thankfully, I will be moving out to Wyoming at the end of this year.

I do not like the massive numbers of people. I do not like that everything is being built up. People are always in a rush...the light turns green and you don't move the horns are blaring. People are never happy, they have to drive 10 minutes to get somewhere and they consider that to be too long of a drive. As far as scenery, I don't care for metropolitan areas so that does nothing for me. All the trees and mountains don't appeal to me either...I'd rather be able to see for miles on end with nothing but open land. I do not like the humidity. In the summer the gnats are everywhere and you of course are sweating because of the humidity. In the winter it makes it colder, the snow is wet and heavy too. 32 degrees here in PA feels a heck of a lot colder than 32 degrees in Wyoming.

I prefer a slower way of life with less people, fewer bugs, wide open spaces, and less humidity, hence why I'm moving to Wyoming. For you and many others PA is great, it just doesn't suit me.

umm...you do realize a large portion of the state is rural and decidedly not fast paced.

[PM15554]

Smaller towns are friendly, but so is Pittsburgh, my hometown.

[Cowgirl15]

Originally Posted by pman

umm...you do realize a large portion of the state is rural and decidedly not fast paced.

Considering that I grew up on a farm, out in the boonies, 45 minutes from any major city, 15 miles to the nearest town...yes I do. If you have ever been out to WY, NE, MT, ND, SD or similar it is just different. It makes what is considered slow paced in PA seem fast paced. It is a different culture, different lifestyle. Also my reasons for moving to Wyoming deal with more that just the pace and ruralness, there were other reasons listed, along with some personal reasons not mentioned. Like I said, for many people PA is great...it is just not for me.

[pman]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl15

Considering that I grew up on a farm, out in the boonies, 45 minutes from any major city, 15 miles to the nearest town...yes I do. If you have ever been out to WY, NE, MT, ND, SD or similar it is just different. It makes what is considered slow paced in PA seem fast paced. It is a different culture, different lifestyle. Also my reasons for moving to Wyoming deal with more that just the pace and ruralness, there were other reasons listed, along with some personal reasons not mentioned. Like I said, for many people PA is great...it is just not for me.

some of us like walking everywhere rather than a 45 minute drive. the best advice I've ever gotten was "no place is perfect, it's what you can put up with." the answer to that for everyone is different.

[sunsetcliff]

when you live in an isolated area- it is a long drive to even get a few groceries.

PA is the only state I would live in.