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Old 06-28-2009, 06:11 PM
 
Location: The Neighborhoods
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The scientific consensus strongly disputes both of you.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:17 PM
 
Location: The Neighborhoods
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We elect representatives to represent us and if they do a poor job they get voted out. Any bozo in congress in my district that votes for stupid stuff like Cap and Rape, I'll be voting their ass out.
Of course, I agree with you.

My contention however was that you don't get to choose what taxes you pay for (And likewise, you don't get to deduct from your taxes if you claim you don't want your tax dollars to support some random federal program; or if you claim some random treaty obligation caused you to lose income, etc). You can, however, vote to elect members of Congress to change the laws to alter your tax burden. That's quite different.

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There is no "scientific consensus" on global warming and for one data shows the earth has been cooling for ten years now. I'd do more research outside of left wing wacko communist agenda sites.
All of these organizations form the scientific consensus:

Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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There is no scientific consensus and never has been.
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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Madam Speaker, before voting on the "cap-and-trade'' legislation, my colleagues should consider the views expressed in the following petition that has been signed by 31,478 American scientists:

"We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.


http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul537.html

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Old 06-29-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: The Neighborhoods
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Pretty much every major scientific organization under the sun (except the ones captured by the petroleum industry) acknowledge anthropogenic global warming. And the best the two of you can come up with is either sticking your fingers in your ears or coming up with some random, unverified, online "petition." I mean, really...
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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Pretty much every major scientific organization under the sun (except the ones captured by the petroleum industry) acknowledge anthropogenic global warming. And the best the two of you can come up with is either sticking your fingers in your ears or coming up with some random, unverified, online "petition." I mean, really...
They can acknowledge the sky is blue for all I care.

Data shows the earth has been cooling for 10 years now.

When the earth heats up again, that will just be another climate cycle as has existed since the dawn of time.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:50 PM
 
Location: The Neighborhoods
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They can acknowledge the sky is blue for all I care.
Not caring about the scientific consensus is quite a bit different from refusing to acknowledge a consensus exists. Which is it?
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:48 AM
 
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Not caring about the scientific consensus is quite a bit different from refusing to acknowledge a consensus exists. Which is it?
It's called I'm a well educated person with an IQ of 159 and I can do my own research and make my own decisions and form my own opinions. In the case of man made global warming I've been extensively reading about it since 1986 in the sixth grade. Of what I have determined it is a fraud and a scam.

There is no such thing as a scientific "consensus" in science.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:53 AM
 
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Job creation??? There's an Unemployment Benefits provision in the bill.

P.S.: Alex Jones rocks.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Sunbury PA, hour north of Harrisburg
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How about "I" read the bill before I decide if I want even more government encroachment into my life?

Usually a persons reads a contract before they sign it. I cant think of any time we have ever had a temporary tax. Besides- the laws apply to average folks- NOT to the all seeing eye. Not in the least.
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