Nearest developed city near butler pa

[stoogemania]

Originally Posted by Icy Tea

Butler is THE developed town for that area.

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I beg to differ. There's a lot to be said for Greenville. They have a Super Walmart, a Peebles Department Store, and Halloween and Christmas parades. And they're even getting a Chill and Grill outside of town, on Route 18, so I've heard, across from the Golden Trough (I mean, Corral).

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by stoogemania

j

I beg to differ. There's a lot to be said for Greenville. They have a Super Walmart, a Peebles Department Store, and Halloween and Christmas parades. And they're even getting a Chill and Grill outside of town, on Route 18, so I've heard, across from the Golden Trough (I mean, Corral).

As a Pittsburgher, I had never even heard of Greenville. I had to look it up on a map. It's WAY too far away to even be part of this discussion.

I have to say that I'm a little concerned that you think having a walmart makes an area developed.

[stoogemania]

Well, it's a big leap from what they had before, and once it was built it led to the addition of several more businesses which improved shopping (such as an Aldi's, which has been a godsend in the depressed local economy). If you needed to go to the hardware store on Sunday, you were out of luck, because the downtown hardware store was closed. The three grocery stores were only open Sunday noon to five. They fought the Wal-Mart for ten years, though. The borough fathers are a bunch of dried up old farts with no vision. Lots of people find Greenville a nice little bedroom community, and the property is very cheap. It is a long drive to Pittsburgh, but there are some who do it. They own large, beautiful homes in the upscale developments.

[bethany12]

Originally Posted by Hopes

If you've ever spent any amount of time in these areas, you'd know that people who live there have to deal with very rural minded neighbors. I go to Butler and Butler county constantly. I have family in the area. I know the frustrations they have with the area concerning the "different breed of people" who live in the area. Paint the picture any way you like, but it's still an area with houses that have old appliances in the yard and stuffed furniture on the porches---and modern housing developments inbetween all that grand culture built on old farms.

Anything suburban is rural compared to downtown Butler. That's why I said that Richland and Pine would be more rural----there's still large expanses of undeveloped area, lots of farmland and wooded areas. Zelie is downright rural compared to the city of Butler. Zelie is a two street town. Cranberry is just strip malls, warehouses and housing developments, nothing cultural there. The OP wants a CITY with more culture than Butler. Zelie and Cranberry aren't that.

I have two family members that live in either side of Zelie---one halfway between Cranberry and Zelie---the other just North of Zelie. They both have corn fields and farms surrounding their homes. And the drive into Zelie is blink your eyes or you'll miss it. I'm in Cranberry three days a week. Aside from the strip malls, restaurants and warehouses, there's just housing developments with tons of 'for sale' signs for houses that haven't sold. Nobody wants to buy a house in a housing development that is across the street from huge warehouses with tractor trailers driving around all day.

If you call rural suburbia 'developed culture' then those corridors are for you. Most people just consider it destruction of farm land.

North Allegheny/Butler County is where the money is. That is where people are moving. If they have to they can drive 20 min to enjoy the arts, culture, and sports in Pittsburgh and then turn around and head home to leave the ghetto behind.

Sorry that you don't like sprawl, but it happens to every city. Like I said, people don't want to live in a ghetto.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by bethany12

North Allegheny/Butler County is where the money is. That is where people are moving. If they have to they can drive 20 min to enjoy the arts, culture, and sports in Pittsburgh and then turn around and head home to leave the ghetto behind.

Sorry that you don't like sprawl, but it happens to every city. Like I said, people don't want to live in a ghetto.

I already recommended that the OP move halfway in between Pittsburgh and Butler.

She's the one who doesn't want to live in suburban sprawl and have to commute into the city for culture.