Coatesville crime + nearby towns? (Chester, West Chester: townhouses, homebuyer, living)

[Mattingly23]

I honestly can't see a Walmart shopping center being a reason for growth in Parksburg. You shop at Walmart for milk and t-shirts....for real shopping, you go to Exton and beyond. I'm sure that Walmart hasn't improved Sadsburyville....is that trailer park still there? Shudder.

[KoZmiC NinJa]

Originally Posted by Mattingly23

I honestly can't see a Walmart shopping center being a reason for growth in Parksburg. You shop at Walmart for milk and t-shirts....for real shopping, you go to Exton and beyond. I'm sure that Walmart hasn't improved Sadsburyville....is that trailer park still there? Shudder.

You are correct, Mattingly !
I lived very close to that WAL*MART and was on a committee
to actively fight it and other bad develpment in the Sadsbury area.
It was the land value and lax zoning laws only that led to the
Sadsbury / Parkesburg area a real estate boom, not WAL*MART.
My previous post about 4 back tells some of the story. The
development, as to be expected, is the start of the downfall of
that area. Fortunately, the housing crash is bringing it to a
halt but yes, the WAL*MART had negative implications on that area
that you might not have imagined it would. A real drain on community
services and we had to pay for it before we left to come to Vermont.
The 1.00 you save on a Chinese, #3 T-Shirt is costing the homeowners
in that area about 2.00. Not for this post, but WAL*MART has unlimited
funds to reasearch where they should put the stores....the ultimate
goal is one every 20 miles in rural areas. What they did in Sadsbury
was to bully the township with frivilious legal filings and drain the
legal defense fund of the township. They know exactly what they
are doing and how easy it will be to close competition down and
create a captive consumer. A proven phenomenon now is that when
the hardware store, food store , pharmacy, etc are forced to close,
the prices WAL*MARTS charges for its similiar items go way up.
Some bargain, huh ?

Oh well....Im better shut up before I blow a vessell

.::EDIT::. Yep...the trailer park is still there, but actually very
quiet compared to before

[Steams]

"The Housing crash"? Your negativity is transparent.
I live in Coatesville and my house has gone up $200K in the last 6 years. I read in the papers today that houses went down around the country 11%, this areas housing hasn't gone down at all. But thats a crash to you i guess.

Your theory that Walmart will raise prices after the local stores close is absurd. The Walmart was never competing with the local mom and pops like you said. They are competing with the Home Depot right next door, the Giant in Thorndale, the Fashion bug, the Pay Less shoes. All of them compete against each other so the consumer saves in the end. I don't think Walmart is going to say "yes, Vern''s old tool shop is gone so we can now raise all of our prices." lol

Speaking of Home Depot , why no hatred for them? They are a large conglomerate who puts mom and pops out of business...

Oh, the drain on services you mentioned. Walmart brings people to the area and costs more to have police and what not. That is true, they would raise taxes for this, but more people have moved in the area it lowers the cost because more people are now paying taxes.

[KoZmiC NinJa]

I dont have it in me to argue this point anymore.
I can tell you have never been to a township meeting
budget or zoning, to say the stuff you do.
Also....as the largest non-government employer in the country,
WAL*MART has the most non-liveably wage, non-insured
workers in the country also. This, and the amount of lawsuits they
have against them for overtime abuse and illegal alien labor make
them a very costly and immoral entity.
There are WAL*WATCHER groups who can verify the price uppages.
Google is your friend. While you are there, check out what happens
to the real estate values in the areas that gets a new WAL*MART.

[Steams]

Originally Posted by KoZmiC NinJa

I dont have it in me to argue this point anymore.
I can tell you have never been to a township meeting
budget or zoning, to say the stuff you do.
Also....as the largest non-government employer in the country,
WAL*MART has the most non-liveably wage, non-insured
workers in the country also. This, and the amount of lawsuits they
have against them for overtime abuse and illegal alien labor make
them a very costly and immoral entity.
There are WAL*WATCHER groups who can verify the price uppages.
Google is your friend. While you are there, check out what happens
to the real estate values in the areas that gets a new WAL*MART.

Not True, I have been to township meetings, I am also a member of the tax payer alliance in coatesville.

Go to the Walmart , most of the workers are teenagers and old people. I even see mentally handicapped people working there and doing a good job. Why do Part time teenagers need health insurance or 50k a year? I have finally found the truth behind your hatred of Walmart. You hate them because they are non-union.

Unions use guys like this to spread the hate about Walmart to pressure them to hire union workers. The Unions do this because Walmart is the largest company in the world and they would make billions and billions from this. If Walmart was Union this guys would love them.

The truth is every large company kills the mom and pop shop or requires large parking lots and heavy traffic, but only the Walmart says no to the Union. Thats why you don't hear this guy talking about Target or Home Depot, or Regal Cinemas.

Why do you hide under all these ideals of saving the community when all its really about is money for the Unions?

[Steams]

Kozmic Ninja, I was wondering why your views are so out there, so I clicked on your name and visited your homepage. Your a member of the communist party. No wonder your against any kind of family, church or business. I just thought people should know why you are spreading such hate propaganda.

[Mattingly23]

You are spot on about the union thing. My husband works for a large supermarket in NJ, his company and union are walmart haters and constantly put down anyone who shops there. Our response is....we are a family trying to make ends meet, our dollar stretches the furthest at Walmart. We can't afford to pay $5 for a gallon of milk....not with 3 kids!!

[mechtm84]

Originally Posted by Steams

Your theory that Walmart will raise prices after the local stores close is absurd. The Walmart was never competing with the local mom and pops like you said. They are competing with the Home Depot right next door, the Giant in Thorndale, the Fashion bug, the Pay Less shoes. All of them compete against each other so the consumer saves in the end. I don't think Walmart is going to say "yes, Vern''s old tool shop is gone so we can now raise all of our prices." lol

Speaking of Home Depot , why no hatred for them? They are a large conglomerate who puts mom and pops out of business...

Oh, the drain on services you mentioned. Walmart brings people to the area and costs more to have police and what not. That is true, they would raise taxes for this, but more people have moved in the area it lowers the cost because more people are now paying taxes.

You're a liar. Wal*Mart is trying to put everybody out of business and eliminate the competition so they can eventually jack up the prices and gauge consumers. Home Depot doesn't put people out of business as much as Wal*Mart. It's these damn corporate fatcat types that make starting a business almost impossible. And then they treat their workers like Sh** with no benefits and dirt pay just to turn an even bigger profit.

Originally Posted by Steams

Kozmic Ninja, I was wondering why your views are so out there, so I clicked on your name and visited your homepage. Your a member of the communist party. No wonder your against any kind of family, church or business. I just thought people should know why you are spreading such hate propaganda.

Oh great,another McCarthy wannabee. Why do you have to yell out ,"He's a commie!"? What is the point in that?

[Icy Tea]

Housing in any of the Philly suburbs, particularly the farther ones, have not suffered any loss in prices. Even Philly has not seen serious drops as people from NY still see property there as a bargain. As far as Wal Mart hurting other businesses, it depends. Many businesses could build next to a Wal Mart and do great, others would fail. Know your niche, run your business well, and don't try to beat Wal mart on their terms. Shady Maple does great with a Wal Mart 5 miles down the road. A poorly run grocery store would have closed by now. Home Depot is killing local hardware stores, Wal Mart never sold enough of that stuff to seriously hurt them. And 20, 30 years ago people were complaining that Sears and K mart were killing local chains. And how is Target any different from Wal Mart? I can understand not wanting a Wal mart in certain areas but they aren't the evil corporation some say.

[Blindlemon66]

If you've been in Parkesburg borough lately, you might have noticed that it is now resembling a ghost town. Far from injecting vitality into the area, the Wal-Mart has turned the Parkesburg area into just another faceless pit stop along the Rte. 30 corridor. The real Parkesburg, a couple of miles south on Rte. 10, has one completely boarded-up shopping center (which was abandoned post Wal-Mart), and one shopping center on the way to being abandoned. It's a shame; the people in the town are the friendliest you'd ever meet. I work in Parkesburg, and used to live there (behind what is now the Wal-Mart, incidentally). I came in from the Philly 'burbs as a complete stranger, and was instantly welcomed. It's quite a difference from the snobbish treatment you can receive in more visibly affluent areas in Chester County. I love the people of Parkesburg, and am afraid the town is losing its identity. This is so typical of lots of small towns across America where strip malls have moved in, and the businesses which make the towns unique soon close. I wish my sons could know the small town America which used to be, and the Parkesburg which was killed by Wal-Mart.