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Old 03-08-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Absecon, NJ
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I am searching for a Fred James Alvarez (born around 1947) that married a woman named Pam around 1965 or shortly thereafter. They were neighbors and lived in Montebello California. They married because Pam became pregnant. Fred's first name could be Frederick, Alfred, or Alfredo. Fred graduated from Montebello High School in 1965. Pam was younger & was probably only in school through her freshman year. Fred worked for the Chevrolet Dealership in Montebello (no longer there). My father remembers Pam's last name sounding like A-ta-sis. We have no clue how to spell it. Help!!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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How about Pamela J Graeff who married Frederic J Alvarez, age 19, in Los Angeles County on 24 Aug 1965, and divorced January 1975?
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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She does appear to be the right age. Any idea how to find Pamela Jean Graeff (DOB 5-3-1951) today???
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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It appears she kept the Alvarez surname when they divorced. Did you follow up on the Moorpark address?

Last edited by hcgCali; 03-08-2011 at 04:32 PM.. Reason: wrong info
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Smile Diff one

She was not divorced till 1975 so the 1969 marriage would not be her.
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:31 PM
 
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Oh duh, I need to stop multi-tasking, lol! Thanks Bette.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Absecon, NJ
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Maybe they got married in Vegas. Do you have access to Vegas marriage records?
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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Yes. It would have come up in the previous search. Double-checking now with a focus on Nevada. Got two possibles using the Alvarez surname, but further digging showed them both to be too young. Graeff turned up nothing. The CA Marriage Index only goes up to 1985, so there could be a marriage after '85 that we can't find.

Checking Birth Index now for siblings. Bingo! Two siblings
James Robert Graeff, 30 Nov 1942
Lynda Ann Graeff, 3 May 1951

Searching for James...
addresses in
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
ANAHEIM, CA
BUENA PARK, CA
FULLERTON, CA

found him..

James R Graeff
533 Roadrunner Dr
Bullhead City, AZ 86442-6207
(928) 758-3713

He should be able to confirm whether or not his sister is the one you're searching for, and if so, put you in touch with her.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Absecon, NJ
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That's not her. The Pam I am looking for isn't a twin. She has an older sister. My father can't remember her last name. Just that it sounded like Atasis, she was blonde, & she married Fred James Alvarez after getting pregnant around 1966/67. So she never finished High School either. I assume she went to Montebello HS because she was neighbors with Fred Alvarez & that is where he went.

I put a post in Classmates under Montebello High School class of 68 or 69. Hopefully someone will remember her. I checked the old yearbooks in Montebello & they don't publish pics of freshmen :~(

I NEED to find Pam to settle a family dispute over what happened back in 1964!!!!
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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They aren't twins. When I pasted the date I didn't notice it pasted the previously copied date of Pam's birth. Lynda's birth is 11 Jan 1946. Married surname is Arias.

However, if you no longer think this Pam is the right one then try a different path. What is your father's birthdate, exact legal name and parent's names? What was the address where they lived in Montebello?

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