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Old 07-20-2012, 02:16 PM
 
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your grandfather:

BYER, WILLIAM F was born 27 August 1943; received Social Security number 349-32-2516, which corresponds to Illinois; and died 13 August 2006.
5thgenSf has made a good find there.

Does all that match up accurately for your Grandfather?

Someone paid for that funeral, even if there was no obituary.
Since the s.s. number was issued in Illinois, do you know the state or city in which your Grandfather died, and was buried?
That can reveal the funeral home, and I have called a few in the past, and they told me who paid for the funeral arrangements.
In 2 cases, the name of the person who paid for it, was a new name, that we did not know about.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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5thgenSf has made a good find there.

Does all that match up accurately for your Grandfather?

Someone paid for that funeral, even if there was no obituary.
Since the s.s. number was issued in Illinois, do you know the state or city in which your Grandfather died, and was buried?
That can reveal the funeral home, and I have called a few in the past, and they told me who paid for the funeral arrangements.
In 2 cases, the name of the person who paid for it, was a new name, that we did not know about.
but she's looking for the ...oops i was confused.

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Old 07-20-2012, 02:35 PM
 
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but she's looking for the son's ex-wife. just makes it confusing since father and son had the same name.
I think the son attended the funeral.
It is not impossible for Linda to have been there at the funeral, and only identified herself as an old school friend, etc. (Even though the deceased was her husband, before the divorce)

I think the son took the 3 kids after the divorce.
Maybe the odds are 1%, but she might have gone to the funeral of her former husband, to pay respects, as well as to see her grown kids, though she may not have told them at the funeral who she really was, their biological Mother that they never knew.
I know 0-1% chance that she was there. But, funeral homes can also provide guests list, because I acquired them before.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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I think the son attended the funeral.
It is not impossible for Linda to have been there at the funeral, and only identified herself as an old school friend, etc. (Even though the deceased was her husband, before the divorce)

I think the son took the 3 kids after the divorce.
Maybe the odds are 1%, but she might have gone to the funeral of her former husband, to pay respects, as well as to see her grown kids, though she may not have told them at the funeral who she really was, their biological Mother that they never knew.
I know 0-1% chance that she was there. But, funeral homes can also provide guests list, because I acquired them before.
i was confused! amended post above. so looking for grandfather's ex-wife. he died in peoria, az in 2006. yes, father took the three kids, which includes the father of the OP.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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i was confused! amended post above. so looking for grandfather's ex-wife. he died in peoria, az in 2006.
We'll find this Linda Gayle Smith Byer, if we have to go knocking on doors.
The door might get closed in our face, but that would confirm we had the right one.
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Old 07-20-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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We'll find this Linda Gayle Smith Byer, if we have to go knocking on doors.
The door might get closed in our face, but that would confirm we had the right one.
it's these names like "smith" that i usually give up on. you almost have to know the answer before you can find it on the web. and even looking at records for people that i knew, often typos or mistakes are posted.
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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I am trying to locate ANY information on my Dad's biological Mother. All I really have is his birth certificate and broken stories from his Dad who is now deceased. On the birth certificate her maiden name is Linda Gayle Smith. She signed her name as Linda Smith Byer. The birth took place in Cook County, Illinois. It says that her birth place is Hot Springs, Va(Bath county). She may or may not have been married to William Frank Byer but did have 3 children with him. 2 in sept 1964(twins one boy and one girl). Then my Dad in Sept 1965. It says she was 18 years old at the time of my Dads birth. All and all information or ways/tips to obtain information is much appreicated.
So, your Father was born in Illinois?

Here is what I find:
Frank Byer, born 1-18-1913, died 4-12-1993, died in Phoenix, AZ, s.s number issued in Illinois.
Bernice L. Byer, born 1-6-1919, died 11-6-1999, died in Phoenix, AZ, s.s. number issued in Illinois.

Sounds like a married couple to me.

Your Great Grandparents by chance?
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:40 PM
 
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So, your Father was born in Illinois?

Here is what I find:
Frank Byer, born 1-18-1913, died 4-12-1993, died in Phoenix, AZ, s.s number issued in Illinois.
Bernice L. Byer, born 1-6-1919, died 11-6-1999, died in Phoenix, AZ, s.s. number issued in Illinois.

Sounds like a married couple to me.

Your Great Grandparents by chance?
Yes, that is my Great Grandparents. They did not have a funeral serivce for William Frank(My grandad). He lived with a friend named Kay at the time of his death. Marth was his 3rd wife. My Father was born in Illinois and so was William Frank(My Grandad).
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:44 PM
 
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Yes, that is my Great Grandparents. They did not have a funeral serivce for William Frank(My grandad). He lived with a friend named Kay at the time of his death. Marth was his 3rd wife. My Father was born in Illinois and so was William Frank(My Grandad).
so are wives #2 and #3 still alive? maybe they know some details.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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Wife 2 is Nancy and who my Dad calls Mom. I have all the details she knows but her details are broken because they came from William Frank who was a liar. Wife 3 Martha is dead.

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so are wives #2 and #3 still alive? maybe they know some details.
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