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Old 03-17-2012, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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All you need to become a nurse is 2 years or pre reqs and 2 years of nursing, grad school is not needed.

There are people working at Mcdonalds that have PHDs too, does that make flipping burgers a white collar job?
No, I am talking about the actual nursing profession being that there is room for advancement. You can get more eduation and make more money.do you consider a nurse practicioner blue collar?
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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Nursing is not going to buy you a nice house and a Mercedes GL Class, but you will get by comfortably. The average nurse starts out at $22 a hour or so, with regular raises, and differential pay for evening or overnight shifts and of course I hear Private Duty pay more.
They are starting RNs off at $30/hr where I live
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:50 AM
 
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No, I am talking about the actual nursing profession being that there is room for advancement. You can get more eduation and make more money.do you consider a nurse practicioner blue collar?
An NP is not blue collar at all. Just like a PA you do many of the same things a doctor does. You'll need your doctorate though.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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OHHHKAAAAAAAAY, before you consider going into nursing go to the allnurses forum and READ A LOT about becoming a nurse, it is not for everyone and nursing has changed significantly over the last 30+ years.

There is a glut of new grads on the market right now due to the for profit schools churning out ADN's along with the tradish CC's and BSN programs. I suggest anyone considering becoming a nurse do lots and lots of research. Yes there are jobs advertised, however, most are for nurses with experience. If you are a new grad with zero experience be prepaired to be flexiable and mobile to get a job.

Go to these links and read about nursing I've posted them over and over again in the unemployment forum:

This first one is one thread among many about finding work as a nurse right now:
*UNEMPLOYED NURSES*

this is sad but true:

new grads and the nursing shortage - YouTube

This is from 2010 but the stats would be even worse now:

Are colleges oversupplying nurses? | MinnEcon | Minnesota Public Radio


If you can get a job as a new grad the starting pay is dependent on where you live.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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Op,I would suggest going straight for the Bsn. If you do get the Adn, just know you will be overlooked for some jobs.

2. Be aware your first nursing job may be in the nursing home.

3. You said they are starting new Rn's in your area with 30 dollars an hr. I know a lot of places have dropped their hourly rates for new staff,even going so far as to fire the older workers.

As someone pointed out,Allnurses is a great site to get information from.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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Why are hospitals closing? Very true that there are a lot of jobs in nursing homes and home health, but the health care sector is doing nothing but expanding as a whole. Our country is aging.

I'm friends with around 15 nurses, many being new grads, and I cant think of anyone that was not able to find a job within a month or two. These same people are telling me that its not that easy, but then they get hired quickly. Maybe its not as easy to get a certain unit anymore?
Hospitals are closing because its cheaper to provide community based care.
For instance,a new Mom whose had a c-section goes home after two days,but a home care nurse comes and checks on her 2 days later is cheaper than having the new Mom stay for 14 days(this was happening in the 80s,hospitals had gotten greedy).

The new grads who I know say its difficult to find a job in a hospital,they ended up in nursing homes or private duty.
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Op,I would suggest going straight for the Bsn. If you do get the Adn, just know you will be overlooked for some jobs.

2. Be aware your first nursing job may be in the nursing home.

3. You said they are starting new Rn's in your area with 30 dollars an hr. I know a lot of places have dropped their hourly rates for new staff,even going so far as to fire the older workers.

As someone pointed out,Allnurses is a great site to get information from.
I'm going to be starting the RN program in the Fall of this year. I know of people who became RNs a few years ago and they had no problem with job placement. I happen to think that some of the forums exaggerate things to discourage new people from entering the field. My dream is to become a RN and I can't see myself doing anything else. and I have invested so much into getting up to this point and have taken so many classes
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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No, I am talking about the actual nursing profession being that there is room for advancement. You can get more eduation and make more money.do you consider a nurse practicioner blue collar?
I would consider a NP white collar. Unlike a nurse they dont follow a 'schedule' and can make decisions (prescribe medicine and tell people what kind of illness they have).
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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More education does not necessarily mean more money, but yes, an NP or an MSN clinical specialist or some kind of advanced degree do not work by the hour and are not doing floor nursing, and you have to have a BSN to get one of those advanced degrees.
There have been times where I am making more than my supervisor with the MSN. As one of my co-workers says, "Call me whatever you will, as long as the check don't bounce."
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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I'm going to be starting the RN program in the Fall of this year. I know of people who became RNs a few years ago and they had no problem with job placement. I happen to think that some of the forums exaggerate things to discourage new people from entering the field. My dream is to become a RN and I can't see myself doing anything else. and I have invested so much into getting up to this point and have taken so many classes
What happens if you can't find work in your dream unit?

I don't think anyone is trying to discourage you,but just pointing out reality.
I have met plenty of people who fell for the "nursing shortage",wasted all their money,can't get a job,and now wished someone had warned them.

Is it an Adn or Bsn program?

You said a few years ago. Things have changed since then. If it was before 2008,the economy hadn't gone south yet.
But there are going to be cuts in many employers' budgets. The first thing that gets cut is usually staffing.
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