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Old 07-22-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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Can anyone lend some advice?
Next time wear a condom? You should speak to a lawyer. Sometimes the courts have free legal advice on certain days of the month. Ask a clerk.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Yes- get personal- the problem with break ups is that they are controlled by a system who remove the power of BOTH parties. The "machine" takes over- if possible make personal contact and works something out- going through the courts is not always your best bet.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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I see this original post is over a year old, so the original poster may be long gone, but since it has been bumped back up, I don't see that anyone commented on the fact that the OP's business checking account only had $1 in it. To me, that reeks of the "I know I owe someone money and I don't want my account garnished, so I'm going to operate on a cash only basis" syndrome. If I were the person money was owed to, I might take this same step and put the OPs account in a deficit as a statement that they can't get away with that game.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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??? So a non-parent who doesn't pay child support for somebody else's kid is a loser? If the non-parent paid, wouldn't they still be a loser?
If you marry someone with children then you should expect them to pay their child support. If they lose their job then yes, you pay.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can stay married to a deadbeat.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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If you marry someone with children then you should expect them to pay their child support. If they lose their job then yes, you pay.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can stay married to a deadbeat.

I said nothing about the deadbeat's spouse, only whether a deadbeat who is not the biological parent is really a deadbeat. I would have a hard time dealing with an obligation imposed in such a situation, especially at my income level.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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Most of these problems are easily prevented by the male thinking before doing. If you are a male, once you jump in the sack you've turned over any rights you have regarding the results to the woman. That is just the way it is.

The issue of child support can be argued from many perspectives but the only one that matters is the one the law defines, everything else is just noise.

On a thinly related topic, if you've ever wonder why prostitution is so challenged by women, think about what making it legal means consider that it means. How many men would simply add up the possible consequences of child support (it often ends up that way) to the cost of engaging a prostitute? I bet more than a small number of men who are not married would just as soon engage a prostitute as jump in the sack with a "girlfriend" and risk the life changing event that unplanned parenthood can bring.

More related is the changing laws regarding marriage. It won't be too long now before child support issues affect the homosexual part of society that decides to get married. To date it hasn't really been an issue but it will soon. If the laws applied now are also applied to homosexual married couples that elect (since they don't conceive) to have children, there are going to be some very nasty consequences reported in the news within a few years.

Lawyers no doubt, are waiting in anxious anticipation.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Florida -
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An $8K deficit in back child support sounds like more than a couple of missed payments. The children, who are likely unemployed, have had no choice, but, to figure out a way to 'manage' without the funds needed for their care. But, I guess that's 'their responsibility', right (?)

In fairness, it sounds like your husband is trying, but, kids are still his responsibility (not 'optional' if he happens to have the money on hand). --- I grew-up with an ex, 'deadbeat' father who 'ran away' and never sent a dime of child support. My mother took-up the responsibility alone and raised three kids on secretarial wages; ... It wasn't pretty and it isn't fair to the children.

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Old 07-25-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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If your idiot bank actually debited your account 8K that you didn't have to send out to them, and if that pays them off, all you have to do is pay the bank back. You should be in the clear child support wise.

And if your bank was stupid enough to actually DO THIS -- then screw over your bank.

I used to handle these types of transactions at two different local banks I worked for and we never never ever overdrew the account -- we zero'ed it out, took our fee and sent what was left to the judgement holder. It makes no sense for the bank to be left holding the bag while everyone else gets satisfied.

BUT -- this isn't the first time I've heard something like this that flys in the face of what I was taught. And I'm betting you bank at a big bank. Normally I don't say stuff like this, but if your bank is really so stupid to do something so patently WRONG -- screw them.

After years of working at small banks who followed the rules and didn't get caught up in all the stuff I've been reading about for the past several years, the big banks need to be taught lessons.

I wouldn't pay this bank. I'd tell them that they should have denied any charge over the amount in the account. Further, your husband should close ALL of his bank accounts. If you are not part of the judgement, you should have accounts in your name only to handle paying the bills. You can both contribute to the account, but his name must not be on it so it won't be "garnished". Keep small balances in it for the first year or two so that if something happens it won't be too harsh, and during that time he should just use cash to pay for everything.
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Turn your business into a corporation.
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Old 01-12-2014, 01:06 AM
 
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If your idiot bank actually debited your account 8K that you didn't have to send out to them, and if that pays them off, all you have to do is pay the bank back. You should be in the clear child support wise.

And if your bank was stupid enough to actually DO THIS -- then screw over your bank.

I used to handle these types of transactions at two different local banks I worked for and we never never ever overdrew the account -- we zero'ed it out, took our fee and sent what was left to the judgement holder. It makes no sense for the bank to be left holding the bag while everyone else gets satisfied.

BUT -- this isn't the first time I've heard something like this that flys in the face of what I was taught. And I'm betting you bank at a big bank. Normally I don't say stuff like this, but if your bank is really so stupid to do something so patently WRONG -- screw them.

After years of working at small banks who followed the rules and didn't get caught up in all the stuff I've been reading about for the past several years, the big banks need to be taught lessons.

In this case, there was $1 in the account, so you'd take the dollar and debit the rest of your fee to leave the account with a negative balance?
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