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I recently got a tax refund back after I had asked that it be applied to my following year's taxes. I have not cashed the check. The reason I moved it forward is that I am late filing 2010. 2011 and 2012 and will be short on those years if I don't move that money forward. I have estimated I will still get money back but not that they have sent me my money, I will be short about $2,500 by the time I catch up.
I did this the previous two years without a hitch and under the law you have three years to file if you don't owe any money.
Getting them on the phone is tough. My plan is to return the check and stick to the original instructions I put on my return.
If I read it correctly, the penalty for filing late and owing money can be equal to the amount that is owed. Yikes.
There's nothing wrong with filing late so long as you request an extension (Form 4868) and pay any tax that's actually due by April 15. That said, it is not "hard" to get the IRS on the phone in comparison to any other large organization that deals with millions of customers, and it would definitely be best to talk to a representative here, as this is not a run-of-the-mill situation. You can certainly apply any refund due in one year to the tax bill of the following year, and many people do exactly that every season. If your instructions to that effect were somehow ignored or misunderstood, this is something that should be straightened out on the phone in less than ten minutes.
The reason that automatic extensions of time to file exist is simple recognition of the fact that April 15 may not be a convenient time for some taxpayers to file. It can take a good while to prepare and document a complex return. Form 4868 does not grant any extra time to pay your taxes. It merely provides more time to pull together the necessary paperwork. There is nothing irrational or unpatriotic about taking such time if or when it is needed.
The reason that automatic extensions of time to file exist is simple recognition of the fact that April 15 may not be a convenient time for some taxpayers to file. It can take a good while to prepare and document a complex return. Form 4868 does not grant any extra time to pay your taxes. It merely provides more time to pull together the necessary paperwork. There is nothing irrational or unpatriotic about taking such time if or when it is needed.
No, six months. Used to be four months, but the extension deadline was moved from August 15 to October 15 some years back. Keep in mind that this is merely for the automatic extension of time to file an original return that comes through filing Form 4868. There are some other rules involved that may apply to filers abroad, particularly those in combat zones. The three years refers to the usual limit on filing a Form 1040X to amend an original return that was previously filed. If you get near the end of your 4868 six months, you need to file something and then later on amend it. And if those three years get close to being up before some legal matter that might affect your taxes is resolved, you can file a protective return to preserve your right to file based on such resolution when it actually comes down.
Bottom line is that 140 million taxpayers mean 140 million different filing situations out there. One size does not fit all.
There is no drama except any that you try to create.
LOL, your THREAD is about drama - and if you don't want people to chime in with their opinions, keep your IRS drama to yourself rather than posting it online in an open forum.
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