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Old 10-09-2014, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Enterprise, Nevada
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Hello my fellow CD peeps. I hope that today is going good for you. I have a question for some of you real estate people who are more experienced than myself. My wife and I are in the process of buying our first home. We will have a 30 yr FHA loan. The mortgage insurance is going to run us around a good $200 extra a month. I know that unless you refinance the home you never get rid of the PMI. Does anyone know of average amount of time, payments, etc... that are required before you can refinance the home in order to get rid of the PMI? Thank you for any good info you can give me and have a good day.
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Old 10-10-2014, 05:54 AM
 
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Hello my fellow CD peeps. I hope that today is going good for you. I have a question for some of you real estate people who are more experienced than myself. My wife and I are in the process of buying our first home. We will have a 30 yr FHA loan. The mortgage insurance is going to run us around a good $200 extra a month. I know that unless you refinance the home you never get rid of the PMI. Does anyone know of average amount of time, payments, etc... that are required before you can refinance the home in order to get rid of the PMI? Thank you for any good info you can give me and have a good day.
that's a pretty loaded question because the actual time is unknown (because of appreciation, what kind of deal you've found, what kind of work or improvements you've done).

Mathematically it will take about 120 months or 10 years providing you don't refinance, you don't pay extra, and you pay on time.

GLTY.
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Old 10-10-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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Hello my fellow CD peeps. I hope that today is going good for you. I have a question for some of you real estate people who are more experienced than myself. My wife and I are in the process of buying our first home. We will have a 30 yr FHA loan. The mortgage insurance is going to run us around a good $200 extra a month. I know that unless you refinance the home you never get rid of the PMI. Does anyone know of average amount of time, payments, etc... that are required before you can refinance the home in order to get rid of the PMI? Thank you for any good info you can give me and have a good day.
The general rule is that you have to have ~20% equity in the house to get a loan without private mortgage insurance (PMI). With PMI, you can usually request cancellation as soon as the loan-to-original value (LTV) reaches 80% and the company is usually required to cancel it once LTV hits 78%. With FHA, as you are aware, mortgage insurance premiums (MIP) are currently for the life of the loan (until you pay it off or refinance).

So, you can look at a mortgage amortization schedule to figure out when you would hit 80% LTV. However, as midwestlaxer indicated, this is usually a very extended period of time for a 30 year mortgage. However, that time could come much sooner thanks to appreciation in the housing stock. Even 1-2% appreciation per year can make a big difference in when you hit the 80% LTV level and therefore can refinance without the MIP. If you lived in an area that was quickly appreciating, theoretically you could refinance in just a few months and get rid of the MIP.
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Hello my fellow CD peeps. I hope that today is going good for you. I have a question for some of you real estate people who are more experienced than myself. My wife and I are in the process of buying our first home. We will have a 30 yr FHA loan. The mortgage insurance is going to run us around a good $200 extra a month. I know that unless you refinance the home you never get rid of the PMI. Does anyone know of average amount of time, payments, etc... that are required before you can refinance the home in order to get rid of the PMI? Thank you for any good info you can give me and have a good day.
If you are considering FHAm consider an FHA ARM so you can build equity faster, otherwise consider saving more money so you can go with a conventional loan with PMI. The cost of PMI is usually less then the FHA MIP.

If you need to get into the house now, FHA might be the only option.
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