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Old 12-14-2014, 01:44 AM
 
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Of course. When we graduated from college we had student loans to repay and we got married and had to set up housekeeping. I also bought a new car. But we made a plan and made our way out...
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:42 AM
 
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Yes.

Felt pretty normal. I think most college graduates start off with negative net worth though, so I guess it is pretty normal.
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:51 AM
 
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yep ,most of us did starting out our careers.
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Old 12-14-2014, 05:00 AM
 
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Yes. Most people who have student loans have negative net worth. It was fine; I was unaware my network was negative.
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Old 12-14-2014, 06:24 AM
 
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It feels normal. A car note or two and a mortgage and little savings would often produce a negative net worth and since that's a lot of Americans it's the norm. I was like that in my early 20s when I bought my first house. Now it would disgust me to go back there. I cut out car payments for the better part of 7-8 years, just got another one but put something like 70% on a used honda but to go negative again eh it would suck and mean something disastrous happened
No, it wouldn't. You apparently haven't considered the fact that the full value of both houses and cars are assets that go in the plus column when calculating one's net worth.

Having a mortgage per se has absolutely nothing to do with contributing to a negative net worth. If I buy a $1,000,000 house with a $900,000 mortgage, I have $100,000 in positive net worth right there. The $900,000 that I would owe on the mortgage would be offset by the value of the house resulting in zero being added to the negative side of one's overall balance sheet.

The only exception to the above would be for those unfortunate souls who have negative equity if they bought just before the real estate bust and they owe more than their house is worth. Even car notes don't contribute to a person's negative net worth unless a person owes more than the car can be sold for.
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Old 12-14-2014, 06:37 AM
 
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you are correct as usual. folks fail to consider what they buy as having offsetting value.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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No, it wouldn't. You apparently haven't considered the fact that the full value of both houses and cars are assets that go in the plus column when calculating one's net worth.

Having a mortgage per se has absolutely nothing to do with contributing to a negative net worth. If I buy a $1,000,000 house with a $900,000 mortgage, I have $100,000 in positive net worth right there. The $900,000 that I would owe on the mortgage would be offset by the value of the house resulting in zero being added to the negative side of one's overall balance sheet.

The only exception to the above would be for those unfortunate souls who have negative equity if they bought just before the real estate bust and they owe more than their house is worth. Even car notes don't contribute to a person's negative net worth unless a person owes more than the car can be sold for.
A lot of people get those crazy 84-month car notes nowadays and trade in after 2 or 3 years and roll the negative equity into the next new car. That alone could create a negative net worth even without other debt.

A lot of people also are going to be starting in the red on their homes now that 3% down financing is back. At least in the red after the RE commissions that would come with re-selling the house.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:26 AM
 
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there are always exceptions to everything that can be dug up but for the most part, buying a car and taking a mortgage are not automatic negative net worth generators.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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there are always exceptions to everything that can be dug up but for the most part, buying a car and taking a mortgage are not automatic negative net worth generators.
Buying a brand new car with under $2k down almost guarantees negative equity initially.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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again , you are trying to single out all the little scenarios where the above may not be true. there is no such thing in any part of life where anything applys to everyone.

but odds are pretty good overall they will not be guaranteed a negative net worth just because they have a mortgage and bought a car.

i could come up with all kinds of situatons where they could but that still is not a general statement that is always true.
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