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I know a few who are living better than me and the Wife. I know one couple, 3 kids, unmarried, public housing, have the latest cell phones, rent cars and go to the casinos once a month, and a cruise once a year.
Nobody lives as good as the 1% on the immense corporate welfare doled out in the last few decades to them. Look at how their incomes increase while the ones for the rest of us are stagnant at best. Who says government can't pick winners?
I know a few who are living better than me and the Wife. I know one couple, 3 kids, unmarried, public housing, have the latest cell phones, rent cars and go to the casinos once a month, and a cruise once a year.
That right there is how they do it.
Unmarried = his income and assets do not reduce the freebies she gets.
Married = his income and assets make her ineligible for freebies.
He has a mental disability. You need to be less ignorant and more compassionate for someone that suffers internally. Unless you've had a mental disability you'll never understand. As much as it may seem glorious to be collecting disability (from your perspective), battling the demons that he deals with that come with the struggles of having an anxiety disorder are no walk in the park. How do you know he isn't putting on a front and making it seem wonderful and then as soon as you leave he has a panic attack as he thinks about the fact that he's in his 20's and is deemed too disabled to work? Or what if he gets extremely depressed because of this and when not around friends/fam, the physical pain of depression put a stop to functioning normally? Just because someone is making it seem like their illness is no big deal doesn't mean it is really that way. For all you know the "vacations" he is taking could be therapeutic and a way to help keep him relaxed/less anxious.
Furthermore, the man served his time. If you're envious of the "free" things he gets as a veteran then here is a suggestion: JOIN THE ARMED FORCES AND UNTIL THEN STOP COMPLAINING. He isn't getting those things for "free"! He sacrificed his time, essentially signing over his life for this country. My guess is that he served time overseas and it is the deployment that broke him and led to his anxiety. (Haven't read the other comments so perhaps that is the case).
Honestly, ignorant people like you make me so angry. I can understand you not grasping the idea of an invisible illness like anxiety... But to be envious of someone getting their hard earned benefits as a veteran?! Give me a break! You should be thanking him for his service and happy he is so well taken care of. 40 years ago Vetetans from Vietnam were coming home with problems that were left untreated. We all know how they turned out.
Sorry for such a late reply, i've been working so much i haven't had time to get online.
I think i already mentioned this before, but he has social anxiety. I have social anxiety as well as depression. I couldn't finish high school, got my ged at 15 and stayed in my room for 4 years. Literally, i did not leave the house. Maybe once to get my teeth cleaned, but thats it! I know how it feels to have social anxiety.
He served at a local base doing a desk job.
I suffer every single day with my condition. Constant panic attacks, with no medication because i cant afford it. They themselves abuse the drugs they get from the VA. He is just fine traveling and going to many conventions which involves many different people in a limited space and interaction is certain. I know this because i go with them! The past few years i've pretty much been living there (the stress of living in husband's parents house makes me visit/stay the night very often). So before you yourself jump to conclusions, yes i do suffer from anxiety and i DO know what it feels like. And yes, i do know what is going on there.
To the others that think i dont care about veterans, i do! I'm a caregiver and i used to care for many elderly veterans and to hear the stories is enough to make anyone cry. But to have him say "I'm retired!" with a smirk on his face makes me think otherwise.
That is nothing... nothing like the veterans i care for.
I'll go ahead and post my situation, because really thats the hole point i made this.. to better myself and get a understanding why we are doing so poorly.
I make roughly $500 a month, doing multiple part time jobs. I have to keep my days extremely flexible because i'm a sub for the postal service. Meaning i can get called at anytime and be expected to be there within 2 hours. I'm only actually scheduled to work every other saturday. I have to wait 10 years until i can get benefits and get it full time. I have to wait until the main retires. For instance this past week she called in sick, so i worked a full 9 days. $12.75 an hour, with an extra $50 each day for gas/car maintenance. But then i can go weeks without any work at all from them. In the meantime i clean houses, caregive, and animal/house babysitting. I also sub for the school district doing mostly overnight custodial jobs. On top of that i create crafts to sell, or buy/collect and resell items on ebay.
Husband is a hard working lumber mill worker. He makes about $1500 take home a month.
Every moment is thinking about living in a house instead of a studio above a garage. I have no running water and have to use the facilities downstairs in the house. Every moment is thinking of how can i get an extra buck to save to get out of here.
Breakdown:
In savings/checking for me: Roughly 10k. I put everything i earn into savings, i try not to spend anything at all. I dont even buy sanitary napkins, i resort to using reusable clothes and whatnot. Extremely cheap lol
Husbands savings: 8k (He automatically puts $400 into savings each paycheck)
Debts:
Cell phone: $172 (husband overspends in this area but he is stubborn and wont budge with changing this)
Netflix: $8
Dog food: $35
Food: $200 (rough estimate)
Car insurance: Cant remember off the top of my head, i believe around $150?
Long term
Car 6.5k $250
Credit card is at 2k
(To raise our credit we buy and pay bills with our credit cards and pay them off fairly quickly)
Student loan 5k $50 a month (Husband did not graduate, was going for engineer. Very close to graduate only a few credits needed)
Land: 55k total, have 53k left to pay on it. Paying $400 a month
House:
Currently trying to pay off land/car to get the loan for the house we want which is $119k
We can get the loan for the house now, but the mortgage would be really too high for us. So my plan is to keep paying off the land and by the time a good chunk of it is gone, the car will be paid for and that frees an extra $250 a month for the mortgage.
Any advice as to what should be done would be very helpful. Unsure what to really pay off right now. Husband wants to pay off car completely now, to free the $250 a month and just go for the house now. I'm uncertain and scared the monthly payments (over 1k) would be too much if we did this now.
Last edited by angeldragon; 06-10-2015 at 09:49 AM..
I'll go ahead and post my situation, because really thats the hole point i made this.. to better myself and get a understanding why we are doing so poorly.
I make roughly $500 a month, doing multiple part time jobs. I have to keep my days extremely flexible because i'm a sub for the postal service. Meaning i can get called at anytime and be expected to be there within 2 hours. I'm only actually scheduled to work every other saturday. I have to wait 10 years until i can get benefits and get it full time. I have to wait until the main retires. For instance this past week she called in sick, so i worked a full 9 days. $12.75 an hour, with an extra $50 each day for gas/car maintenance. But then i can go weeks without any work at all from them. In the meantime i clean houses, caregive, and animal/house babysitting. I also sub for the school district doing mostly overnight custodial jobs. On top of that i create crafts to sell, or buy/collect and resell items on ebay.
Husband is a hard working lumber mill worker. He makes about $1500 take home a month.
Every moment is thinking about living in a house instead of a studio above a garage. I have no running water and have to use the facilities downstairs in the house. Every moment is thinking of how can i get an extra buck to save to get out of here.
Breakdown:
In savings/checking for me: Roughly 10k. I put everything i earn into savings, i try not to spend anything at all. I dont even buy sanitary napkins, i resort to using reusable clothes and whatnot. Extremely cheap lol
Husbands savings: 8k (He automatically puts $400 into savings each paycheck)
Debts:
Cell phone: $172 (husband overspends in this area but he is stubborn and wont budge with changing this)
Netflix: $8
Dog food: $35
Food: $200 (rough estimate)
Car insurance: Cant remember off the top of my head, i believe around $150?
Long term
Car 6.5k $250
Credit card is at 2k
(To raise our credit we buy and pay bills with our credit cards and pay them off fairly quickly)
Student loan 5k $50 a month (Husband did not graduate, was going for engineer. Very close to graduate only a few credits needed)
Land: 55k total, have 53k left to pay on it. Paying $400 a month
House:
Currently trying to pay off land/car to get the loan for the house we want which is $119k
We can get the loan for the house now, but the mortgage would be really too high for us. So my plan is to keep paying off the land and by the time a good chunk of it is gone, the car will be paid for and that frees an extra $250 a month for the mortgage.
Any advice as to what should be done would be very helpful. Unsure what to really pay off right now. Husband wants to pay off car completely now, to free the $250 a month and just go for the house now. I'm uncertain and scared the monthly payments (over 1k) would be too much if we did this now.
if your total income is only 2000 a month and your house payment will be over 1k, yes, that is way too much.
Please excuse me, i am still pretty young and just trying to make it in the real world.
I have multiple part time jobs. I seem to always be working. My husband works full time, sometimes 12 hours a day.
Believe me when i say this, we work hard. We are struggling and trying so hard to buy property and a house.
My friends husband just got on disability a year ago. Before that he was on unemployment and even admitted to me that he stopped really *trying* to find work because they were getting free money. Both do not work, and have not worked in years. He has even said to me "I'm retired" with a smile and he is in his 20s.
He worked for the army and cited his anxiety as a disability while working on the base (his duties was a desk job). They currently live in a brand new housing facility on the VA. They go on multiple vacations a year, usually monthly. From my calculations they receive 10+ packages in the mail a week from online shopping. I actually clean for a few clients at this facility so i'm always helping them by bringing in their packages when they get mail. I sometimes go on vacations with them, and they rent a car, rent the most expensive suites, order expensive room service & go to fancy restaurants. When at home they go to restaurants constantly and excessive shopping when going out together. The other day the wife was actually filling out paperwork to get *more* money from other services.
Because of the VA, he gets free health care, free counseling/medications... something i can only dream of.
Please explain to me, how is it that we are working so hard and seem to be getting no where.
Yet someone on disability seems to be living the high life?
Please believe me i am trying hard NOT to be jealous (who knew you could be jealous of someone on disability/welfare?!)
But I just dont understand.
The thing is, he's not living the "high life".
For a start, he's discriminated against constantly.
Secondly, I doubt he's able to save up for a nice car or overseas holiday or anything other than surviving at base level.
Thirdly, given a chance to do what he's doing, YOU WOULDNT. Because you have more pride and self esteem than he does. There always has to be someone poorer, iykwim.
Fourthly, its a very powerless way to live, reliant on the good graces of your govt. It actually is a whole lot easier day to day, to get a job and be able to mind your own business, than to have to go to grotty places and stand in grotty queues with other deadbeats and be constantly reminded of your own failings in life.
Fifthly, some people struggle with illnesses and conditions you cant see, which are no party. You shouldn't judge anyone.
Sixthly, almost 99% of all people do pull their weight one way or another. The unemployed person doesn't get to hoard his money, 100% of it is plowed back into the economy, a lot of small businesses only survive due to their lower economic customers. So the tax dollars are not usually wasted as such.
Seventhly, a society is made up of a lot of different folks, some win, some are dealt hands that will never win. I suggest most people who are on welfare are only there because someone else damaged them in some way. You should think yourself lucky you got an education, 3 squares, etc.
Eightly I've seen both sides of the fence. Neither looks good from the other side.
For a start, he's discriminated against constantly.
Secondly, I doubt he's able to save up for a nice car or overseas holiday or anything other than surviving at base level.
Thirdly, given a chance to do what he's doing, YOU WOULDNT. Because you have more pride and self esteem than he does. There always has to be someone poorer, iykwim.
Fourthly, its a very powerless way to live, reliant on the good graces of your govt. It actually is a whole lot easier day to day, to get a job and be able to mind your own business, than to have to go to grotty places and stand in grotty queues with other deadbeats and be constantly reminded of your own failings in life.
Fifthly, some people struggle with illnesses and conditions you cant see, which are no party. You shouldn't judge anyone.
Sixthly, almost 99% of all people do pull their weight one way or another. The unemployed person doesn't get to hoard his money, 100% of it is plowed back into the economy, a lot of small businesses only survive due to their lower economic customers. So the tax dollars are not usually wasted as such.
Seventhly, a society is made up of a lot of different folks, some win, some are dealt hands that will never win. I suggest most people who are on welfare are only there because someone else damaged them in some way. You should think yourself lucky you got an education, 3 squares, etc.
Eightly I've seen both sides of the fence. Neither looks good from the other side.
1. Isn't everyone discriminated against? I'm discriminated because of my learning disability. Everyone has faults and is discriminated for it.
2. They are buying a brand new car, and they are going to hawaii within the next few months. As mentioned above, they go on vacations monthly, rent cars, expensive hotel suites, restaurants, etc. The list goes on. I already mentioned this.
3. To get out of the pure hell i experience everyday with my social anxiety, sure! If someone would give me free money, why not take it? Its the easiest, most painless way. Most would, which is why the system is taken advantage of. I know a few friends (5 of them) whom get food stamps. They dont report where they are living. They all live in the same mobile home. They are getting over 1k in food stamps. An individual who lives at my house gets food stamps as well, doesn't report where hes living and we are actually eating this food. I've reported it, but nothing was done. People take advantage of the system all the time, and its us that has to pay for it.
4. How in anyway is it easier? I suffer from constant panic attacks. If i could hide in my room all day, i would be happy too. How are they having to be around other "deadbeats?" They live on the va, and get care alongside other very courageous veterans.
5. I HAVE what he has. The exact same thing. We even act alike during stressful situations. I know what its like. This condition sucks and i dont wish it on anyone.
6. So that means anyone can just get a free trip because in the end, they spend it to fuel the economy? There should be strict guidelines so that people do not abuse the system. Food stamps? Give them designated food boxes. Have the supplies needed to survive inside. Have the option to include clothes, household products, etc. Dont just give people money. This will fuel their desire to work instead of living off of the system.
I dont want to give someone my tax dollars so that they can buy expensive seafood or a $25 birthday cake. Or, in this case, a vacation every few weeks.
Why should someone whom didn't earn this money get to buy luxuries when someone whos working hard for their money cant? As mentioned earlier i dont even buy household products! They give me their bathroom samples they get from the hotel rooms to me so that i can wash my hair, clean my body.. and once in a while the free coffee packets on those days that take forever to wake up.
7. Heres the thing, i didn't get an education! I got my ged when i was 15, because of my social anxiety and a messed up system. They pushed me through school and i didn't learn much of anything. College is a no go, i wont be able to pass any of my classes. Heck, the garage i'm living in now is collapsing. The trusses are cracking and breaking. Yet i'm still stuck here, working hard, and getting absolutely nothing to show for it.
8. This can be true, i'm not talking about everybody. I'm just talking about this case of what i believe to be, someone using the system and enjoying life with no worry of working or getting money.
In fact, they recently brought in their step brother whom is 14 and hasn't been in school for 4 years. They plan to adopt the child to get the child support for even more money. (theyve done this twice before with there brother and sister)
Last edited by angeldragon; 06-11-2015 at 09:33 AM..
And just in case you guys dont believe me, this is the stuff they give me after coming back from a vacation. This is just one trips stuff. Usually they buy little travel sized things as well which they give me because they buy new ones every trip.
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