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Old 07-27-2016, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This is confusing.

But you would have paid taxes on the Roth contributions. Lets say you contributed $5,000 and paid $1,000 in taxes. Thus your net pay would be reduced by $6,000.

For the tax deferred 401k you contributed $5,000 and paid $1,000 less in taxes. Thus your net pay was reduced by $4,000.

I would contribute as much as you can to the plan and I would use both types as you can not predict the future tax picture.
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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In your Roth example, "net pay" has already accounted for the tax payment. Said another way, it does not matter how much was taken out in taxes, a Roth contribution reduces the net pay by the amount of the contribution. If he bought a $5,000 boat instead, it would reduce his net pay by $5,000. Same thing
Anything you do from your checking account is with net monies but that ignores how much income it takes to put 5k in a Roth vs 5k in a deductible Ira or 401k

One takes 6k as does the boat and the other 4k
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:51 PM
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Anything you do from your checking account is with net monies but that ignores how much income it takes to put 5k in a Roth vs 5k in a deductible Ira or 401k

One takes 6k as does the boat and the other 4k
He didn't say the $5,000 Roth cost him $6,000, which might be true. He said the $5,000 Roth reduced his net pay by $6,000, which is not true.

I realized after I posted that I would get in some silly argument which is why deleted it. I am not going to continue this
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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He didn't say the $5,000 Roth cost him $6,000, which might be true. He said the $5,000 Roth reduced his net pay by $6,000, which is not true.

I realized after I posted that I would get in some silly argument which is why deleted it. I am not going to continue this

His 5k Roth contribution did cost him 6k in income but I beleive he misspoke. You are correct his net pay wasn't impacted by 6k
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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This is confusing.

But you would have paid taxes on the Roth contributions. Lets say you contributed $5,000 and paid $1,000 in taxes. Thus your net pay would be reduced by $6,000.

For the tax deferred 401k you contributed $5,000 and paid $1,000 less in taxes. Thus your net pay was reduced by $4,000.

I would contribute as much as you can to the plan and I would use both types as you can not predict the future tax picture.
Okay, now I'm getting confused, but my question was pretty simple and Lowerexpectations answered it. $18,000 in contributions to either 401k types.

I'll let my tax advisor figure out the rest. My concentration is putting as much money as I can into those accounts.. and yes, we do a combination because it's too hard right now to figure out where we'll be in the future. I'm certainly not where I thought I would be now.
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