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Old 03-12-2017, 11:48 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Freedom to be poor and rich. So some folks choose well and other didnt. That's the high level of what gives.
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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Freedom to be poor and rich. So some folks choose well and other didnt. That's the high level of what gives.
Well damn. That about sums it up completely.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:53 AM
 
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I generally tip $2 per person on a meal for great service. That, in this area is an $8-12 entree most places, and as high as $25/entree. It CAN go up or down, depending....

I don't consider I need to tip more than $2 just because the same one entree cost more. They both usually get bread of some kind and a salad. Those "extra trips" to the table to bring them are part of the deal.

I don't figure coming to my table ONCE to take my order, and ONCE to drop it off WITH the check is worth more than $0.50-1/person at all. THAT is NO Service. I get THAT service at McD's or BK FOR FREE.

I WILL tip more than the $2/person IF the server is genuinely NICE, PLEASANT. INTERESTED in "how my meal is", and PAYS ATTENTION to things like: our requests, automatically refilling the "free refills" glasses of soda or coffee, offering dessert, and ASKS if we are ready for desert OR TOGO boxes and the check; and especially if s/he IS busy and genuinely takes the time with me/my party, and that is REGARDLESS of the entree price...

Granted the last statement is WHAT A GOOD SERVER SHOULD DO, but many here DON'T.

AND, I DON'T care HOW BUSY s/he may be, I've WORKED the restaurant business, AND the RETAIL business, I know that already, especially in retail the Day After TG, I only tip for GREAT SERVICE.

I also DON'T like "mandatory tips" of 20% for "large parties".

I also DON'T like the FORCED tipping of "having it included in your entree price", either.


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Old 03-13-2017, 05:40 AM
 
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cost of meal should have no bearing on how much you tip either

the chefs did the work in preparing the $5 vs $50 meals, not the waitress

The different is her bring one plate vs one fancy plate, the work is the same regardless
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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I also DON'T like the FORCED tipping of "having it included in your entree price", either.


That restaurant I mentioned with the included tip has been our go-to for celebration meals (anniversaries and birthdays). More out of convenience I suppose... but the service is truly extraordinary. I mean, very, very polished and complete. Servers don't feel rushed and take the time to go through the menus and specials of the evening. Even complete with wine pairings.. for pizza...

We went a few weeks ago and our server had recommended a pear gelato that still astonishes me. I had never tasted a frozen desert that perfectly captured the essence of a fruit like that.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I generally tip $2 per person on a meal for great service. That, in this area is an $8-12 entree most places, and as high as $25/entree. It CAN go up or down, depending....

I don't consider I need to tip more than $2 just because the same one entree cost more. They both usually get bread of some kind and a salad. Those "extra trips" to the table to bring them are part of the deal.

I don't figure coming to my table ONCE to take my order, and ONCE to drop it off WITH the check is worth more than $0.50-1/person at all. THAT is NO Service. I get THAT service at McD's or BK FOR FREE.

I WILL tip more than the $2/person IF the server is genuinely NICE, PLEASANT. INTERESTED in "how my meal is", and PAYS ATTENTION to things like: our requests, automatically refilling the "free refills" glasses of soda or coffee, offering dessert, and ASKS if we are ready for desert OR TOGO boxes and the check; and especially if s/he IS busy and genuinely takes the time with me/my party, and that is REGARDLESS of the entree price...

Granted the last statement is WHAT A GOOD SERVER SHOULD DO, but many here DON'T.

AND, I DON'T care HOW BUSY s/he may be, I've WORKED the restaurant business, AND the RETAIL business, I know that already, especially in retail the Day After TG, I only tip for GREAT SERVICE.

I also DON'T like "mandatory tips" of 20% for "large parties".

I also DON'T like the FORCED tipping of "having it included in your entree price", either.


I feel the same way. Good service doesn't mean they just bring you food. They need to come back and ask me whether I need anything.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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In Seattle, even $15/hour is not a living wage, with the average 1 bedroom apartment costing 75% of that, while landlords will require income to be enough that rent is only 30%. Most of the time you would have no idea how much the waitstaff make, since it depends on the number of employees, but also, not all of them are getting 40 hours. I continue to tip 10-20% depending on the level of service. Some places in Seattle, however, are now charging a service fee of 18.5% in lieu of tipping.

I wonder if restaurants that are doing that will lose business. I usually tip 20% unless service was crummy then I tip 15%. If it was really crummy 10% with a note that "I'm not cheap, service was sub-par." If a restaurant near me started charging a service fee of 18.5% I would no longer go there. A tip is given for good service and for a server to have an incentive to give you that good service.


In places like Seattle, NYC, San Francisco, Chicago and other high costs of living areas that $15 an hour is nothing. Comes to $2400 a month which might get you a decent apartment if you don't have a car payment, car insurance, high utilities and wish to eat more than one meal a day.


I noticed the other day in one of our local fast food restaurants that they have 4 kiosks where you can order your food, pay and then pick it up when it's ready. Fast food workers might want $15 an hour, doesn't mean fast food restaurants are going to give it to them if they can find a way around it. Realistically I don't see how anybody can make ends meet on minimum wage these days even in the smallest podunk town. Traditionally, in the past, fast food workers were high school kids or seniors wanting a little extra spending money. It was never meant to be a living wage.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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The friend is perfectly fine. Medical residents are doctors still in training:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/m...RCH_KO0,16.htm


You might wanna redo your math 13 a hour is 26,000 a year. 26 a hour is 52000 a year. And I'm pretty sure it's a salary position. There is no way in hell a resident is making $13 a hour.
Now if you're adding her TOTAL hours worked vs her salary her salary pay converted to hourly may be 13 a hour. But she's doing residency so she's gotta go through the trenches in medical warfare to earn her stripes.
Just like every other doctor before her had to do. Once she's out of residency she's going to start pulling down 150k a year without batting a eye and that guy making 15 a hour is gonna get his doors blown off.
Don't feel too bad for your friend. It's temporary
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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You might wanna redo your math 13 a hour is 26,000 a year. 26 a hour is 52000 a year. And I'm pretty sure it's a salary position. There is no way in hell a resident is making $13 a hour.
Now if you're adding her TOTAL hours worked vs her salary her salary pay converted to hourly may be 13 a hour. But she's doing residency so she's gotta go through the trenches in medical warfare to earn her stripes.
Just like every other doctor before her had to do. Once she's out of residency she's going to start pulling down 150k a year without batting a eye and that guy making 15 a hour is gonna get his doors blown off.
Don't feel too bad for your friend. It's temporary
I'm prett sure my SIL is making something like 13.00 in residency even at 50k but working 80 hour weeks
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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You might wanna redo your math 13 a hour is 26,000 a year. 26 a hour is 52000 a year. And I'm pretty sure it's a salary position. There is no way in hell a resident is making $13 a hour.
Now if you're adding her TOTAL hours worked vs her salary her salary pay converted to hourly may be 13 a hour. But she's doing residency so she's gotta go through the trenches in medical warfare to earn her stripes.
Just like every other doctor before her had to do. Once she's out of residency she's going to start pulling down 150k a year without batting a eye and that guy making 15 a hour is gonna get his doors blown off.
Don't feel too bad for your friend. It's temporary
It's not my friend and there isn't any reason not to assume the OP is including TOTAL hours. As you stated: doing residency you gotta go through the trenches to earn your [high earning] stripes...
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