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Old 10-17-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Cost of living has not gone down, has it? The whining about fixed income - do something about it.
Yep. Last time I checked minimum wage wasn't being raised because lawmakers simply felt like being generous!

 
Old 10-17-2018, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Take your tip down to 15%, which was once considered a fair tip, maybe still is.

On the other hand if 10% is the best you can do, well Hell, you can’t rap people for doing the best they can do.
I've not read the thread for days so catching up but: if you have a limited budget: You CAN'T afford to eat at high-end restaurants! Don't punish the server(s) because you don't want to leave a decent tip.
 
Old 10-17-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Originally Posted by Threestep View Post
Cost of living has not gone down, has it? The whining about fixed income - do something about it.
Nor has it increased 5X, which is functionally what the minimum wage for a server went up (from $2.13 to $11 or so.)
 
Old 10-17-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I’m sorry, but in most restaurants tipping is how employees make most of their pay. Food is priced lower because of it. There are some restaurants that are now paying their employees more, have higher food prices and have a no tipping policy. That’s great, but if you go to your typical American restaurant you should tip at least 15%, unless the service really sucked.

If you cannot afford to tip 15%, you cannot afford to eat at that restaurant.
 
Old 10-17-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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if you can't afford to tip for good service (i'm not saying give 20 pct for bad service) then dont' go out to eat. simple.
 
Old 10-17-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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oh how I want to comment on how they intimidate you with their iPad set to "recommend a starting place for tipping" because there are obviously a lot of service workers here on this thread. I'd rather be in Europe, as they're not quite as greedy or shall I say, crude? ...someday hopefully. Meanwhile I will tip what I deal appropriate which will always be lower than the semi-skilled self-entitled think they're worth.
 
Old 10-17-2018, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
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Prices in Arizona restaurants have went through the roof since the minimum wage increase. It is only going to get worse as the minimum wage is going to $12/hour in 2020.

Several of the restaurants around here posted signs that they were forced to raise their prices (by a lot) due to the minimum wage increase. By doing this the tip got even more expensive. My wife and I have made a decision that we are not going to continue to pay more for food and more for a tip because idiots voted themselves a raise. I didn't get a raise but everything around me has gotten a lot more expensive. I actually lost buying power in all this mess. We tip a flat $5 regardless of what the meal costs now. We did tip between 15% and 20% before the minimum wage increase and the increased prices to cover it. No more for us.

Now places are figuring out how to do without workers so these no/low skill jobs will start disappearing. Similar to the Affordable Care Act which caused employers to decrease their full time staff and make everyone part time.
 
Old 10-17-2018, 10:54 PM
 
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It's actually standard practice in many restaurants for the waiter or manager to inquire about why a low tip was left (or not tip at all).
No, it is not.
 
Old 10-17-2018, 11:10 PM
 
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so did anyone figure out why a waiter in a high priced restaurant earns more than a lesser priced restaurant?

they work less tables with slower turnover? more staff per table?
It's because working in a higher-priced restaurant involves a certain skill level that those working in burger joint don't have or really need. Fine dining servers aren't exactly the low-no skilled workers many seem to think.
 
Old 10-17-2018, 11:40 PM
 
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No, it is not.
it's definitely not.
i usually tip 20-25%. I will tip less for bad service (maybe 10-20 pct of the time).
On cheap meals (say a 6 dollar breakfast) i usually tip 50-100 pct of the cost of the meal. I'd feel terrible tipping 20 pct of 6 dollars.


I did one time have a manager ask me why I left a dollar on an 80 dollar bill.
I explained because the service was beyond terrible and I would have left nothing but then the waiter might have just thought I forgot the tip.
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