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Old 02-28-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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Thank you everybody!

I was on the phone with my bank & H credit card company. My H has to call back again. My concern is if my husband lack providing detail information on who he think did this. We live in Canada and the fraudulent person did this in Florida (we think) for sure in the USA.
Bank/credit card company has access to the individual transactions. Have your husband file an official fraud charge. Some companies accept a phone call and issue a case number immediately. Ask how to proceed. Make a list of places/witnesses H was when the charges were made. Have him request closing the card number and issuing him a clean card.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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This seems so strange - are Canadian banks so different than US banks?

You simply file chargebacks on each charge, disputing that you purchased the items, cancel the card and get a new one.

The credit card company will investigate and ask the company to provide proof that you purchased the items, if they can't, they will have to return the funds.

I have NEVER heard of a credit card company saying you had to pay for fraudulent charges - that is outrageous.

Even when my husband's debit card was compromised, while it was in his pocket, we were able to get the funds back, even though it took a few days.

Now, the other thought is that your husband bought items online or over the phone and that is why they are saying he needs to pay. Is that possible?
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Old 02-28-2019, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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The last time I had a card compromised, it turned out that the third party service that processes credit card payments for my county's water-sewer service had been hacked, so the fraud point can happen in many different places.

I found out when my Florida-based self got text and phone messages from American Express asking about a bunch of small test charges, including someone using a card cloned from mine to buy breakfast at a Tim Horton's in Toronto. I think it took about half an hour for their fraud department to go through the attempted charges and cancel them out and I got a new card with a different number in two business days.

IMO, that's how the system is supposed to work and the banking differences between the two countries shouldn't be enough to make it so different up there.
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:19 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Whoever told you H that he is responsible for paying fraudulent charges is a complete idiot. One of the whole purposes of having a credit card is to guard against fraud. If they continue to assert this you need to involve whoever regulates the banks in Canada. There is no reason to declare bankruptcy over charges you are not responsible for.

Most likely a low level lazy idiot at the bank was talking out of their rear orifice.
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Old 02-28-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Whoever told you H that he is responsible for paying fraudulent charges is a complete idiot. One of the whole purposes of having a credit card is to guard against fraud. If they continue to assert this you need to involve whoever regulates the banks in Canada. There is no reason to declare bankruptcy over charges you are not responsible for.

Most likely a low level lazy idiot at the bank was talking out of their rear orifice.
You could be held liable for charges on your account if required to file a police report/sign an affidavit swearing you weren’t involved and you refuse to comply.
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Old 02-28-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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You could be held liable for charges on your account if required to file a police report/sign an affidavit swearing you weren’t involved and you refuse to comply.
The OP said H made a police report.
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Old 02-28-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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When is that required???
When the cc company requires it

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The OP said H made a police report.
And yet that might not be enough
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Old 02-28-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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Handling credit card fraud must be very different in Canada. The few times I've had fraudulent charges on a credit card, the credit card company has nearly always caught it and notified me. I only recall one time that I found the fraud and notified the CC company. In any event, the charges were always reversed, I was issued a new card, and I had no adverse consequences at all. The only liability I would have had would have been caused by my delaying telling the CC company for, I think, 60 days or more. Even in that case, my liability would have been limited to $50.


This sounds like it might be an issue with a debit card, as someone else mentioned. If it is a credit card, why deal with your bank? Just call the CC company (VISA, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, etc.) and let them take care of it. Again, this might have something to do with how these things are handled in Canada, but one would think the reporting and handling of fraud would be fairly similar.
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Old 02-28-2019, 01:46 PM
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It's not up to him to give a list of suspects. It could have been totally random, someone just trying numbers til they got on one.
We've had credit card fraud, and it actually is important if you think you know who did this.

The credit card company will then decide if you were "in on" the take - that is, someone you are affiliated with makes lots of charges, and then you claim fraud and both of you reap the benefit of the items purchased.

In my experience, they will dig pretty deep if the charges are more than, say, a couple hundred dollars.
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Old 02-28-2019, 01:47 PM
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Whoever told you H that he is responsible for paying fraudulent charges is a complete idiot. One of the whole purposes of having a credit card is to guard against fraud. If they continue to assert this you need to involve whoever regulates the banks in Canada. There is no reason to declare bankruptcy over charges you are not responsible for.

Most likely a low level lazy idiot at the bank was talking out of their rear orifice.
You have to help prove they're fraudulent, is the thing. You can't just say it and be believed.
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