Tired of paying state income tax!

[CMartel2]

Originally Posted by golfgod

Hindsight2020 wrote about the "fine" for not having health insurance in MA;

That would be your former Governor "Mitt" Romney, AKA the savior of the Republican party.

Sort of. Romney wanted a lot of changes made to that bill, but the legislature over-rode a veto on a lot of them. He wanted the income level required to receive state funding lowered from the 60K or so that it is. He wanted to dump dental and eye insurance from the plan. He also wanted a provision where you could opt out entirely if you could show you had enough saved up (10k, I believe) in case of an emergency. Several other things came up, and his veto was overridden.

All of that made it more expensive than it need be.

I'm still not a fan of government mandates, but a lot of pork that's in the Mass bill got stuffed in there by the legislature against his veto.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Cosmic

Just had a lady visit us from Maine. She wants out of there so bad can taste it. Same old New England crap. Way too cold, way too regulated, way too expensive, way too controlling.

You could not give me a house in Maine. I sure am not moving there or recommending any other sane person do so.

???

We just moved here in 2005. After years of trying to find a cheap farm.



"Too regulated"?

No building inspectors, one building permit for as many buildings as you want to build on your property. I hunt deer from my front porch. The sheriff drives through our township once a week.

This is very Un-Regulated!

Where could she go to find land less regulated?



"way too expensive"

???

Someone is pulling someone's leg.

I bought land for $300 / acre.

Forest, with river frontage, paved road, Electric, phone and DSL at the pavement.

Taxes here are $1.05 per acre.

Way too expensive!!!

LOL

My 42 acre farm costs me $47 a year.

Way too expensive ! ? ! ?

Are are kidding me!



"way too controlling" ???

sigh.

Okay fine. I give up.

When you are ready for it, then you can join me on planet earth.

Less than 9 people per square mile, simply does not have enough people in existence in most of Maine, to care what you do.

[Cosmic]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

???

Okay fine. I give up.

When you are ready for it, then you can join me on planet earth.

Less than 9 people per square mile, simply does not have enough people in existence in most of Maine, to care what you do.

We are on the same planet, probably trying to do about the same things. Maine does not have any type of monopoly on being Free ....... Cheap. You can do it in a bunch of places.

Some counties in Ohio will do. Probably find it in WV, KY, TN, maybe AR.

Just in them other places, you do not have to freeze your arse off in the process, ok maybe you do in WV. Plus the 4th of July does not count as summer which is the season with bad sledding.

I have heard they have it up in MI. Maybe get a trip up this summer to see this one dudes ranch. But he has already warned me, you get real winter. Ice fishing does not amuse me.

My county has 28 peeps per square mile, that counts all the Big City folks, idiots who can not count and those who only can point at a train and say Choo - Choo. All what floats your boat. Bottom line I am never going anywhere with real winter again. Just ain't happening. Am not going where they have hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, fires and all that other stuff that destroys your life. Just ain't happening.

Ain't recommending anybody else do it it either.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Cosmic

We are on the same planet, probably trying to do about the same things. Maine does not have any type of monopoly on being Free ....... Cheap. You can do it in a bunch of places.

Okay but you said:
"Way too cold, way too regulated, way too expensive, way too controlling."

Now your only complaint is cold.

I did not challenge you on it being cold.

I challenged you on the other stuff you clearly made up.

... Plus the 4th of July does not count as summer which is the season with bad sledding.

???

July does not count as summer in WV?

I do not follow that statement.

... I have heard they have it up in MI. Maybe get a trip up this summer to see this one dudes ranch. But he has already warned me, you get real winter. Ice fishing does not amuse me.

MI gets colder than ME gets.

We are well above the 'snow belt' that strikes down wind of the great lakes.

... My county has 28 peeps per square mile, that counts all the Big City folks, idiots who can not count and those who only can point at a train and say Choo - Choo. All what floats your boat. Bottom line I am never going anywhere with real winter again. Just ain't happening. Am not going where they have hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, fires and all that other stuff that destroys your life. Just ain't happening.

Ain't recommending anybody else do it it either.

So you prefer cities?

Okay, fine, I like rural.

Good luck



IMHO urban life requires a high level of municipal services [police, fire, schools, sewers, street sweepers, etc] those are folks on salary and in unions. Cities have higher taxes.

If you want low taxes, you have to go rural.

[golfgal]

Weather aside (and I didn't read all of the posts) but my experience with living in a state with no income tax (South Dakota) vs states with and income tax (Minnesota mainly) is the the overall service, schools, roads, you name it in South Dakota were incredibly inferior to MN's. Things we took for granted in MN didn't even exist in SD. Like they say, you get what you pay for. Here is the overall tax burden by state that I find interesting:

Tax-Friendly Places 2007 | 8 | CNNMoney.com

[Leilani Vasquez]

I live in Massachusetts now, just relocating from Connecticut. IMO Connecticut's property & state taxes were much higher than that of Mass. Not only that but Connecticut is the 3rd most expensive state for gas.

[Leilani Vasquez]

Originally Posted by texdav

You really need to do a research on oberall cost of living which includes Taxes;fees and general cost of living.Then alos compar services that are part of thosde taxes and fees.

The most expensive states to live in are California, New York and Connecticut. That's combining everything.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Leilani Vasquez

The most expensive states to live in are California, New York and Connecticut. That's combining everything.

I grew up in Ca, my Dw grew up in Ct; we have lived in each state and have owned homes in each.

I do agree that Ca and Ct are very expensive places to live.