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Old 08-21-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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Default help... need NATURAL remedies for flees on dog cats and now in house

have 3 outdoor cats, i rescued as kittens after their mother was struck and killed. been feeding them in my enclosed porch since they were 2-3 weeks. all 3 are healthy 1 yr olds. they are outside cats... only come in at night to feed and go back out after. approximately 3 weeks ago i noticed one scratching. unfortunately by the time i realized she had flees my dog and inside cats were now scratching as well. had dogs and cats my whole life and NEVER had to deal with flees... ticks yes... flees no.

initially i used (petmeds) flee4x on the cats and dog... DID NOT WORK!. was sent advatage2 for the cats and k9advantix2 for the dog. i'm afraid to give them the next treatment as it has only been about 10 days, since applying the stuff that didn't work. called petmeds and "customer service" said it would be fine BUT then again his title is customer service... not doctor. i've bathed the dog twice (with hartz flee and tick) which seems to work for about 12-18 hrs. at this point i'd rather find less harsh/chemicals to treat my pets and/or house with.

i'm looking for PROVEN (preferably NATURAL) solutions to rid the dog, cats and house of flees. i don't see many flees, in the house, but i'm sure that does not mean i haven't got a problem. i've read and heard once they are indoors, it's pretty difficult to get rid of them. ours is an older home and for the most part, no carpeting... hard wood flooring throughout with a couple area rugs here and there. moreover, the furniture is mostly wood with the exception of a leather couch and a fabric couch. off coarse there are 3 beds (all of which the dog sleeps in), no window treatments... just blinds.

any/all info will be greatly appreciated. as i said, i'd like NATURAL solutions. HOWEVER, i do understand, beggars can't be choosers. i'll take any advice in dealing with these pests... i want them off my pets and out of my house!!! thank you for reading my post and looking forward to your replies. hope all is well in your neck of the woods . have a good one.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Haven't tried it myself (since they can't prove it's safe around snakes/reptiles, of which I have many), but I hear good things about diatomaceous earth - reasonably priced too! Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth For Fleas - PureEarthD
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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P.S. That Hartz stuff really doesn't work, so don't waste your money... if you end up going with a non-natural product, I would recommend Frontline Plus, Advantage, and/or Comfortis.
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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Haven't tried it myself (since they can't prove it's safe around snakes/reptiles, of which I have many), but I hear good things about diatomaceous earth - reasonably priced too! Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth For Fleas - PureEarthD

hey gizmo... thanks for the reply. it's funny you mentioned DE... i just left earthworkshealth.com site and found their food grade (DE) product. i'm a landscaper and knew DE to be a good/safe natural lawn and/or garden pesticide BUT had NO idea it was so versatile!

looks like i'll be grabbin some for my house, pets and myself... the benefits internally and externally for both animal and humans is far reaching. i knew if i posted on here,you all would come thru with great suggestions... very smart and/or savy group here at city-data. haven't been on in a while but i'm never let down in a pinch.

hope all is well... thanks again for posting. good luck with those reptiles... my brother had a bearded dragon... very kool and wild looking "roommate"!

*** if others have more suggestions... keep em coming... what's worked for you and/or someone you know?
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Old 08-21-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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P.S. That Hartz stuff really doesn't work, so don't waste your money... if you end up going with a non-natural product, I would recommend Frontline Plus, Advantage, and/or Comfortis.
hey gizmo... I COMPLETELY AGREE. don't know what i was thinking (guess i wasn't) when i ordered this s#!t. the dog i had just prior to valley, developed cancer at the age of 9 and we went thru having his right shoulder/leg amputated... then 6 months of chemo... NEVER again! gnik (king spelled backwards) was a VERY young 9 y.o. rott/pit mix and in excellent shape... NEVER any health issues.

long story short... i concluded, after seeing and hearing others deal with the very same cancer issue, these HIGHLY TOXIC repellents and/or pet "medical" supplies are in fact what caused these pets to "develope" cancer. the specialist who removed his shoulder/leg told me he does the very same operation (at least) 3-4 A WEEK! moreover, he went on to explain most cancers of this type are the front legs and/or shoulder. furthermore, he said the bones and tendons/ligaments are reduced to almost dust!

think about where these manufacturers suggested to apply... just between the shoulder blades? not hard to come to the conclusion that these are VERY DANGEROUS pharmaceuticals their "pushing"! somebody's making a lot of money selling this S#!T. although there may be SOME unsuspecting (pet) health care providers MOST know full well these "so-called" medicines are highly toxic and lethal. LOT OF DIRTBAGS OUT THERE SELLING "SNAKEOIL" to a bunch of unsuspecting and/or well intended animal lovers and caregivers.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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hey gizmo... I COMPLETELY AGREE. don't know what i was thinking (guess i wasn't) when i ordered this s#!t. the dog i had just prior to valley, developed cancer at the age of 9 and we went thru having his right shoulder/leg amputated... then 6 months of chemo... NEVER again! gnik (king spelled backwards) was a VERY young 9 y.o. rott/pit mix and in excellent shape... NEVER any health issues.

long story short... i concluded, after seeing and hearing others deal with the very same cancer issue, these HIGHLY TOXIC repellents and/or pet "medical" supplies are in fact what caused these pets to "develope" cancer. the specialist who removed his shoulder/leg told me he does the very same operation (at least) 3-4 A WEEK! moreover, he went on to explain most cancers of this type are the front legs and/or shoulder. furthermore, he said the bones and tendons/ligaments are reduced to almost dust!

think about where these manufacturers suggested to apply... just between the shoulder blades? not hard to come to the conclusion that these are VERY DANGEROUS pharmaceuticals their "pushing"! somebody's making a lot of money selling this S#!T. although there may be SOME unsuspecting (pet) health care providers MOST know full well these "so-called" medicines are highly toxic and lethal. LOT OF DIRTBAGS OUT THERE SELLING "SNAKEOIL" to a bunch of unsuspecting and/or well intended animal lovers and caregivers.
Wait a minute, do you pet your dog in that spot near the fron shoulder blade? If so, logically YOU are the cause of the cancer! It's your rubbing and petting the dog in that spot that cause the cancer to form. Oh wait, have you feed the dog any non commercal food? If so, the proximety to its mouth and that shoulder may be another "logical" cause for the cancer. Seems its more you than other stuff based on your anology! By the way, that doc of yours is a quack! (2-4 amputations a week yeah right!)
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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Wait a minute, do you pet your dog in that spot near the fron shoulder blade? If so, logically YOU are the cause of the cancer! It's your rubbing and petting the dog in that spot that cause the cancer to form. Oh wait, have you feed the dog any non commercal food? If so, the proximety to its mouth and that shoulder may be another "logical" cause for the cancer. Seems its more you than other stuff based on your anology! By the way, that doc of yours is a quack! (2-4 amputations a week yeah right!)
hey pacific... don't appreciate your sarcasm... NO S#!T it's other things, like the "commercial" food as you so eloquently put it... you must some kinda be a genius!

as far as "that doc of yours is a quack" the HOSIPTAL is a nationally renown vet referral only SPECIALIST who take in animals from all over the northeast! i spent well over 5k and 6 months desperately trying to save my dog... your FOOLISH comments speak volumes!!!

my reply, to gizmo, was intended to make people not only "think" about the choices they make for their pets overall health BUT also their quality of life. no sense replying... i don't waste my time arguing... especially with IGNORANTS!!!

for short bus riders such as yourself, my point was... if i had to make that decision again (amputation and/or chemo), i would have said good by to my pup after the 3rd specialist i brought him to. lost my best friend that day and i don't appreciate IDIOTS wasting my time AND the others on here looking for some answers and/or advice!!!

unfortunately there are some sheads on this site as well. good luck to you dude, you apparently have WAY to much time on your hands... get a life!!!
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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P.S. That Hartz stuff really doesn't work, so don't waste your money... if you end up going with a non-natural product, I would recommend Frontline Plus, Advantage, and/or Comfortis.
DE works well IF things aren't really bad. If they are it just doesn't work fast enough. One thing which determines the best treatment if you use a chemical one is your own area. Call a couple of vets and ask what they are finding is effective, and what they are selling. Frontline (and the Walmart generic) is running or or has already a LOT of places. Some of the local vets here aren't even selling it. I used comfortis on my dogs and it was WONDERFUL. The floor was covered with dead ones after I gave them the pills (put them in an enclosed room) and neither had a reaction. My cats are inside so keeping the dogs under control was major.

The Hartz, Adams ect products are very questionable, and its better to get something a vet would reccomend and sell since some of those have made animals very sick.

Also remember that if fleas are in the yard and you walk out and in, you could have them on your shoes and clothes, and they'll jump off onto the floor. I had to spray one room which was overwhelmed, where cats sleep and stuff is stored, but other than that I sprayed the area around the front and back doors. You shouldn't have too much of a problem on wood floors but check any product you use to see if it can be used on them. DE sprinkled and left for a couple of hours, then vaccumed up will also help in floor control. I did double duty on the chair and couch but treating the animals on them so I treated the furnature too.

I used regular advantage and it worked, but as I said, you can't generalize. I wouldn't use any drop or pill until the stuff you used has gone at least three weeks, so trying the DE for now would at least be helpful. When you can check with a vet first.

The flea season here has been awful with people minus pets having problems, and I'm so hoping for a nice cold winter to kill off all the bug eggs ouside...
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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Just remember if you use DE...it has to be FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth.

There is a discussion here about the safety, not because of toxicity (food grade DE is not toxic) but because of inhalation dangers

Help me figure out the right thing to do
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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DE works well IF things aren't really bad. If they are it just doesn't work fast enough. One thing which determines the best treatment if you use a chemical one is your own area. Call a couple of vets and ask what they are finding is effective, and what they are selling. Frontline (and the Walmart generic) is running or or has already a LOT of places. Some of the local vets here aren't even selling it. I used comfortis on my dogs and it was WONDERFUL. The floor was covered with dead ones after I gave them the pills (put them in an enclosed room) and neither had a reaction. My cats are inside so keeping the dogs under control was major.

The Hartz, Adams ect products are very questionable, and its better to get something a vet would reccomend and sell since some of those have made animals very sick.

Also remember that if fleas are in the yard and you walk out and in, you could have them on your shoes and clothes, and they'll jump off onto the floor. I had to spray one room which was overwhelmed, where cats sleep and stuff is stored, but other than that I sprayed the area around the front and back doors. You shouldn't have too much of a problem on wood floors but check any product you use to see if it can be used on them. DE sprinkled and left for a couple of hours, then vaccumed up will also help in floor control. I did double duty on the chair and couch but treating the animals on them so I treated the furnature too.

I used regular advantage and it worked, but as I said, you can't generalize. I wouldn't use any drop or pill until the stuff you used has gone at least three weeks, so trying the DE for now would at least be helpful. When you can check with a vet first.

The flea season here has been awful with people minus pets having problems, and I'm so hoping for a nice cold winter to kill off all the bug eggs ouside...
thanks nightbird for reply and advice... the problem doesn't seem too bad at the moment and i'm fairly confident the DE may work for us.

i think the key may be using a food grade product, therefore it can be used internally as well. i read DE will handle worming (not sure of heartworm) problems in most animal/mammals as well as work wonders for humans.

i learned today, there are a number of household items such as brewers yeast, borax, salt, essential oils, soapy water, etc. which have apparently been 100% successful if used in conjunction, followed properly and regularly.

i've been seriously looking to change many things in my life re. "health" and/or "food"... whether it be me and/or my animals. there's VERY LITTLE, in todays society, that isn't highly processed and LOADED with toxins. when times were simpler and many grew there own food and/or knew the person who did, there was far less SERIOUS illness.

pharmaceuticals and these mass production "frankenfood" pushers are what is slowly killing this country. cancer is a HUGE "cash crop" and generates tons of money (for a very limited few) with ridiculously POOR results, while bankrupting the patient AND his/her family!!!

people need to wake up and really look at what we are being "sold". thanks again nightbird... have a good one.
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