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View Poll Results: Have you shipped a pet?
Yes. Unaccompanied. 12 50.00%
Yes. Accompanied by me or a family member. 4 16.67%
Yes. Accompanied by someone other than family. 0 0%
No. I'd never ship my pet. 9 37.50%
No, but I would if I or a family member could accompany. 1 4.17%
No, but I would if someone could accompany my pet. 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-23-2010, 07:04 PM
 
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Just curious what options are available...

Did you pay a fee above and beyond your animal's plane, train or bus ticket?

Encounter any problems, expected or unexpected?
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:15 PM
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Location: Glendale Country Club
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A friend is moving to Hawaii...her new husband is in the military and returning from Iraq. She has two dogs that must be moved to Hawaii. Since this is summer, this is a problem as the airlines will not ship pets when the temp is above 85 for both the departure and destination. This is a situation I'd never thought about, adding a new complication/problem to shipping a pet. With the temperature a major factor, it could be fall before these dogs can go to Hawaii. That also means my friend can't go be with her new husband until the dogs go. Thought this might give people an idea of a problem that could be encountered.
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Big Island- Hawaii, AK, WA where the whales are!
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You can go to the Hawaii forum for lots of information such as this.

Are you looking for specific information? Dogs cats or other type of animals? Depending on "where" you are taking your pet will depend on the cost and what kind of preperations you need to make. Health certificates are a must for most places, Usually 10 - 30 days prior to shipping. You must have animals vacinated for what is available. Rabies certificates are needed most of the time - only orginals.

Size will make a huge difference in cost of plane. Because my dog (and that is including crate also, didn't realize that when booking ticket) weight was 3 lbs over I had to fly him in cargo vrs luggage. His round trip ticket price went from $300 to $1500.

When you ship cargo even though they are on the same flight you need to go to cargo at the airport and have them there 90 minutes at least prior to flight if connecting. Some airports only accept in cargo animals at a certain time - Seattle was 6am..Hilo Hawaii was 8am. Even if you flight isn't untill 4pm. Meaning now your pet is locked up those additional hours in crate .Another thing to think of before booking a ticket if your traveling with them. I had a three hour lay over.. thought enough time - but then the plane was 1 hour 20 minutes late. Luckily they worked with me but they had the choice to cancel my flight..

Each airline also has their own weight requirement. Some fly luggage up to 150lbs others are at 70lbs. You must have an approved water dish in the crate also. Forgot mine coming back home. I ended up having to take taxi all around town to find "approved" dish..made the taxi price go from $40 to $175.

Another thing that I got stumped on is if the area you are going to required a micro chip ID. Didn't know that (and the vet didn't know either) certain areas only accept certain brands of micro chips. I had the wrong one. Luckily another vet caught it in time. So now he has two micro chips. Also certain breeds at certain times of the year airlines will not fly them.

Fed Ex does some shipping of animals. Their is a cargo company out of LA that ships the animals in the head of the plane. Meaning if it was a regular plane... they would be in first class vrs down below. Good luck if you are transporting an animal.
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Big Island- Hawaii, AK, WA where the whales are!
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It is usually flat nosed breeds the the temp issues. My border collie I had to have the vet put on the health certificate was healthy enough to fly from 15 degrees to 100 degress. No problem. When I left Seattle it was 20 degrees. The normal temps on a health certificate are 35 degrees to 85 degrees.
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: at work!
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I have shipped puppies and adults to new homes. I have also had dogs shipped to me. Also many snakes, lizards etc.. Never had a problem. Most accidents happen when people attempt to open crates in unsecured areas and the scared animal bolts. It still makes me nervous, but if I had the time and money to escort the animal, I would just make the drive and pick it up. Many times I have scheduled vacation days and made an enjoyable road trip. Shipping pets is no more dangerous than other types of transport. Believe me, dogs have bolted from ground transports and been involved in car accidents too. Just more media coverage when an airline is involved.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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I have never shipped any of my animals anywhere. I wouldn't trust sending my dog on a plane in cargo. I would use Pet Airways, but I don't believe they do large dogs. My sister moved from FL to AK and sent her lab and her cat on a plane in cargo. She had no problems. I've just heard one too many horror stories.
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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yes i have and i will regret it for the rest of my life . My mother and I both shipped our dogs ,mine was a beautiful syberian husky named shawnee , my mother a cairn terrier called lulu . well when we left them at the airport they were in seperate travel cages and they were fine . when they got to us they both developed coughs and my mother and I knew something was not right . we took both of them to the same vet and explained what was going on . the vet immediately drew blood and did a whole slew of test and then they found out somehow the dogs ingested some kind of fuel they believed it to be jet fuel . Sadly for both of us my mother and I had to have our dogs put down due to our negligence and I will never forget it .we dont know and will never know but we are in a lawsuit with the airline that shipped them . i will never again ship another animal and I dont ask others to do it either . I warn people against it now .
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Plymouth,Michigan/Quad Cities, (IA/IL)
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Sadly for both of us my mother and I had to have our dogs put down due to our negligence and I will never forget it .we dont know and will never know but we are in a lawsuit with the airline that shipped them . i will never again ship another animal and I dont ask others to do it either . I warn people against it now .
That is so sad. I'm very sorry that you and your mother had to go through this.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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I've dealt with animal shipping for years and know many people involved. Air shipping is as safe compared to all the other types of transporting dogs. It gets a bad rap because when something goes wrong, people jump up and down and scream and shout, and it becomes public info. When was the last time you read a front page story about Jane or Joe who lost their dog at some rest stop? But it happens all the time.

It also gets a bad rap because people can say whatever they want and nobody questions if its fact or fiction. Look at the dog that died this year on the Alaska airline flight. How many people blogged about the poor dog and bad airline until they found out the dog was hit by a car days before being shipped by their owner. Now you hear nothing, and you can't get any of those "poor dog - bad airline" people to admit they reacted on emotions and not facts.

There was also that Continental flight where a dog dies and the owners were all over the place claiming the dog died from lack of oxygen and it wasn't pressurized. Everyone was trying to lynch the airline over that, but once again, it turned out there were 6 other animals on the flight and they all ended up just fine. The dogs died of some type of reaction to a tranq the owner gave against the advice of their vet.

I feel just as bad when an animal dies enroute, but sometimes the truth needs to be told. Air travel is a safe mode of transportation. The majority of problems is when owners don't take the time to plan properly.
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:52 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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I've dealt with animal shipping for years and know many people involved. Air shipping is as safe compared to all the other types of transporting dogs. It gets a bad rap because when something goes wrong, people jump up and down and scream and shout, and it becomes public info. When was the last time you read a front page story about Jane or Joe who lost their dog at some rest stop? But it happens all the time.

It also gets a bad rap because people can say whatever they want and nobody questions if its fact or fiction. Look at the dog that died this year on the Alaska airline flight. How many people blogged about the poor dog and bad airline until they found out the dog was hit by a car days before being shipped by their owner. Now you hear nothing, and you can't get any of those "poor dog - bad airline" people to admit they reacted on emotions and not facts.

There was also that Continental flight where a dog dies and the owners were all over the place claiming the dog died from lack of oxygen and it wasn't pressurized. Everyone was trying to lynch the airline over that, but once again, it turned out there were 6 other animals on the flight and they all ended up just fine. The dogs died of some type of reaction to a tranq the owner gave against the advice of their vet.

I feel just as bad when an animal dies enroute, but sometimes the truth needs to be told. Air travel is a safe mode of transportation. The majority of problems is when owners don't take the time to plan properly.

the voice of experience.....

and THIS is why i wish that we would get "the rest of the story" as it unfolds.... however, that doesn't sell papers......
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